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  • Reply to: War on an abstract noun Open Thread.   6 min 13 sec ago

    I have been just assuming Cruz was in the House and I must have filtered out all information that Cruz was a Senator.

     

    Statewide election winner, Ted Cruz, oh man.

  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   34 min 40 sec ago

    Mistaken on a detail, but not a dumb point.  I'd love to know how both parties missed the signals that this would be a winning issue for them if they ran with it in their respective states.  I've met plenty of folks who are against the legalization of pot, I've yet to meet one that would switch their vote if their preferred candidate adopted a legalization stance.  Yeah, it's anecdotal but it's the only information I trust :)

  • Reply to: War on an abstract noun Open Thread.   51 min 18 sec ago

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  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   3 hours 6 min ago

    ...you are acting in good faith offering to look up the protest times.

     

    But they were going on all over the world. hundreds of people were being killed, several of our embassy's were being stormed that very day...Bengazhi had to seem small potatoes...only people that don't want to remember, don't remember the truth...the whole world was on fire, actually starting on September 8, with the broadcasting of Innocence of Muslims on Egyptian TV

     

     

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    On September 11, 2012, a series of protests and violent attacks began in response to a YouTube trailer for a film called Innocence of Muslims, considered blasphemous by many Muslims. The reactions began at U.S. diplomatic mission in Cairo, Egypt, and quickly spread across the Muslim world to additional U.S. and other countries' diplomatic missions and other locations, with issues beyond the offense at the movie trailer becoming subjects of protest. In Cairo, Egypt a group scaled the embassy wall and tore down the American flag to replace it with a black Islamic flag.

     

    The list is huge, from September 11 through September 25...the whole world was on fire, peple aren't treating you fairly in this argument:

     

    Egypt

    In Egypt, the protest was organized by Wesam Abdel-Wareth, a Salafist leader and president of Egypt's Hekma television channel, who called for a gathering on September 11 at 5 pm in front of the United States Embassy, to protest against a film that he thought was named Muhammad's Trial.[43][44] However, Eric Trager, an experts at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, has said that the protest was in fact announced on August 30 by Jamaa Islamiya, to release Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman.[citation needed] After the trailer for the film began circulating, Nader Bakkar, the Egyptian Salafist Nour Party's spokesman, and Muhammad al-Zawahiri, the brother of al-Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawihiri, called for Egyptians to assemble outside of the American embassy.[45]

    About 3,000 demonstrators, many of them from the ultraconservative Salafist movement, responded to his call. A dozen men were then reported to have scaled the embassy walls, after which one of them tore down the flag of the United States of America and replaced it with a black Islamist flag with the inscription of the shahada: "There is no god but God and Muhammad is the messenger of God". Some of the protesters also wrote "There is no God but Allah" on the compound walls. According to Sherine Tadros of Al Jazeera, the protestors demanded that the film be taken "out of circulation" and that some of the protestors would stay at the site until that happens. Thousands of Egyptian riot police were at the embassy following the breach of the walls; they eventually persuaded the trespassers to leave the compound without the use of force. After that, only a few hundred protesters remained outside the compound.[46] Reports that the United States Marines were not allowed to carry live ammunition by the State Department were later proven to be incorrect.[47]

    Egypt's prime minister Hesham Kandil said "a number" of protesters later confessed to getting paid to participate.[48] He did not say whether the government knew or suspected who paid the protesters.

    On September 14, in the town of Sheikh Zuwayed in the Sinai Peninsula, protesters stormed a compound of the Multinational Force and Observers, designed to monitor the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel. The peacekeeping force opened fire on the protesters. Two members of the peacekeeping force were wounded.[49][50]

    Ahmad Fouad Ashoush, a Salafist Muslim cleric, issued a fatwa saying: "I issue a fatwa and call on the Muslim youth in America and Europe to do this duty, which is to kill the director, the producer and the actors and everyone who helped and promoted the film."[51] Another Muslim cleric, Ahmed Abdullah (aka Abu Islam) tore up the Bible and threw the torn pages on the ground during the September 11 embassy attack.[52][53]

    Yemen

    In Yemen, the protests started on September 13, after Abdul Majid al-Zindani, a cleric and former mentor to Osama bin Laden, called on followers to emulate the attacks in Egypt and Libya.[54]

    Hours later, protesters had stormed the grounds of the U.S. embassy in Sana'a. Police fired into the air in an attempt to hold back the crowds, but failed to prevent them from gaining access to the compound and setting fire to vehicles. Guards in Sana'a used tear gas and a water cannon to drive back the crowd. At least 4 protesters were killed and 11 others injured; 24 guards were also injured.[5][55]

    The U.S. responded by sending a Marine FAST unit to Yemen.[56]

    Greece

    About 600 Muslim protestors in Athens tried to march on the U. S. Embassy, but were stopped by Greek police. No injuries were reported, although three cars were damaged and three storefronts were smashed. The protestors chanted "we are all with Osama" and called on the US to hang the filmmaker.[57]

    Sudan

    In anticipation of protests, Sudanese authorities deployed "many, many riot police" near the American embassy. Nevertheless, on September 14, protesters breached the outside wall of the compound and clashed with guards; three people were killed.[58]

    Also after Friday prayers on September 14, protesters started fires and tore down the flag in the German embassy. Demonstrators hoisted a black Islamic flag at the German embassy, which read in white letters "there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Prophet".[59] Although it was initially assumed that the attacks were to a target of opportunity related to the protests against the film Innocense of Muslims, the incident is now reported as a long-planned deliberate attack against Germany; preachers encouraged the riots by referring to Germany's defending Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard in 2012 during the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy.[60] Referring to a demonstration in August 2012 by right-winged German protesters during which pictures of Mohammed were shown, the Sudanese foreign minister justified the attacks by saying that German chancellor Angela Merkel had allowed these demonstrations to proceed and had thereby encouraged "an insult to Islam and clearly violated all rules of religious coexistence and tolerance."[59]

    The neighboring British embassy was also attacked,[61] with two people killed in clashes with the police.[62]

    Tunisia

    In Tunis, on September 14, protesters entered the compound of the U.S. embassy after climbing the embassy walls and set trees inside the compound ablaze. The protesters attacked the American Cooperative School of Tunis and set it on fire.[58] At least 4 were killed and 46 injured during protests near the embassy on September 15. The U.S. government pulled out all non-essential personnel and urged its citizens to leave the city.[6][63]

    India

    On September 14, the U.S. consulate in Chennai, India, was attacked, with protestors throwing stones and footwear at the consulate. Police dispersed the crowd, causing minor injuries to 25 protesters. The Consulate asked American citizens to enroll in the STEP program, asked American citizens to follow the local news and media and ceased the consulate's operation temporarily. Additional Police protection for the consulate was also granted by the Tamil Nadu Government.[14][64]

    Indonesia

    On September 17, up to 500 protesters, many of whom were part of the Islamic Defenders Front and Majelis Mujahideen Indonesia attacked the United States embassy in Jakarta by throwing stones and loose pavement, some reports also state that petrol bombs were used in the attacks. In addition to attacking the embassy, protesters attacked the local police force and embassy guards.[65]

    Pakistan

    Pakistan has witnessed widespread protests all across the country.[66] On September 14, security forces clashed with demonstrators outside the U.S. embassy in Islamabad over the anti-Islam film.[67] Protesters called for the execution of the filmmaker and urged Islamabad to close the US Embassy and expel its diplomats.[68] In the eastern city of Lahore, demonstrators burned the US flag outside the U.S. consulate and shouted slogans against the United States and Israel. On September 16, Voice of America News reported that police fired tear gas and water cannon at hundreds of demonstrators as they approached the heavily guarded consulate in the southern city of Karachi.[69] On September 19, a businessman who was unwilling to participate in the protests was charged for blasphemy.[11] On September 20, CNN reported that protests continued in Karachi, where according to a police official about "100 small children" repeated anti-American slogans during a protest.[70] Video showed children repeating an adult voice, "Death to America" and "Any friend of America is a traitor." The children, between the ages of 6 and 8, demonstrated across from the Karachi Press Club, led by "at least four teachers."[71] In Islamabad, police used tear gas and fired warning shots into the air to disperse the crowd. Islamabad Police Chief Bin Yamin said eight police were injured.[citation needed] On September 21, a public holiday was held in Pakistan as protests under the banner of "Love our prophet" were held across the country. The newspaper Dawn reported that at least 23 people were killed during the day.[72][73] In Karachi, a crowd of 15,000 torched "six cinemas, two banks, a KFC and 5 police vehicles" whilst some fired on police, killing two police officers.[74] It was further reported that 10 of the protesters were shot dead afterwards.[74] Meanwhile in Peshawar, four protesters and a policeman were killed.[3] Ghulam Ahmed Bilour, a Pakistani cabinet minister has announced a $100,000 bounty for killing Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. The Pakistani government has sought to distance itself from this award. Some British MPs have called for a ban on Bilour's visits to Britain.[75] On September 23, a rampaging mob of protesters in Mardan reportedly "set on fire the church, St Paul's high school, a library, a computer laboratory and houses of four clergymen, including Bishop Peter Majeed." and went on to rough up Zeeshan Chand, the pastor's son.[12][76]

    Other protests

    Protesters in Bahrain denouncing the film

    Egyptian TV host Sheikh Khaled Abdullah, in his broadcast of September 8 on Al-Nas television, criticized the film's depiction of Muhammad.[77] Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi urged the United States government to prosecute the film producers whom he referred to as "madmen".[78] The U.S. Embassy in Cairo issued a statement condemning what it called "continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims," an apparent reference to the video.[79]

    The showings of the film's trailer resulted in massive and sometimes violent protests and deaths and hundreds of injuries in several cities in the world.[80] The government of Pakistan declared a national holiday in honour of the Prophet and called for peaceful protests against the film.[81] On September 17, about 500,000 Lebanese protested in Beirut at a rally where Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah made a rare public appearance, calling for sustained protests against the film, calling the protests the "start of a serious movement in defense of the prophet." American diplomats at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut began destroying classified material as a security measure.[82]

    In Benghazi, Libya, heavily armed attackers killed the U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans on September 11. Some U.S. officials, speaking under anonymity, said that they believed the Benghazi attack was coordinated and planned in advance, and not prompted by the film.[83] Al-Qaeda has indicated responsibility and said it was in revenge for a U.S. drone strike which killed Libyan Abu Yahya al-Libi, an al-Qaeda leader.[84]

    On September 12, YouTube announced that it had "temporarily restricted access" to the video in Egypt and Libya.[85] Afghanistan and Iran[86] decided to censor YouTube and Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai said the makers of the film committed a "devilish act".[87] Several news services have reported that "Bacile" has gone into hiding fearing that current actions could be used as an excuse to harm him,[88] and that he continued to defend the film.[89] Saying he was sorry for the death of Stevens, "Bacile" blamed the consulate's security system.[90] Klein rejected any blame for the violent reaction to the movie, saying, "Do I feel guilty that these people were incited? Guess what? I didn't incite them. They're pre-incited, they're pre-programmed to do this."[91]

    On September 18, a female suicide bomber drove a car filled with explosives into a mini-bus with foreign aviation workers in Afghanistan, killing at least nine people, reportedly including eight South Africans and a British woman and possibly also a number of Afghans.[92] The Islamist militant group Hizb-i-Islami claimed responsibility for the attack, which was the first reported suicide bombing by a woman in the country, and said it was in response to the film.[93] The Taliban said they attacked the British military base Camp Bastion on September 14, killing two American soldiers, in a response to the film, and later claimed the base was chosen because Prince Harry was there.[94]

    The film has been condemned by the Coptic Orthodox Christian Church.[95] Bishop Serapion of the Coptic Orthodox Diocese of Los Angeles said in a statement that it "rejects dragging the respectable Copts of the Diaspora in the latest production of an inflammatory movie about the prophet of Islam ... The name of our blessed parishioners should not be associated with the efforts of individuals who have ulterior motives."[96] In addition, the World Council of Churches stated that the film was “an insult to the heart of the Muslim faith” and “to all peoples of faith.”[97][98]

    ADL's Abraham Foxman said, "We are greatly concerned that this false notion that an Israeli Jew and 100 Jewish backers were behind the film now has legs and is gathering speed around the world. [...] In an age where conspiracy theories, especially ones of an anti-Semitic nature, explode on the Internet in a matter of minutes, it is crucial for those news organizations who initially reported on his identity to correct the record." Foxman specifically criticized "news organizations across the Arab world and anti-Semites and anti-Israel activists" for continuing to describe the filmmaker and backers as Jewish despite the fact that no Jews were involved in the making of the film.[99]

    While Bacile was neither Israeli nor Jewish, the Iranian state-linked Press TV cited the initial reports for the film. Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, evoked "evil Zionists" and the United States for creating the film.[100] Rabbi Abraham Cooper condemned initial reports that the film was backed by Jewish donors and said that the media did not thoroughly research this claim. Cooper said that to "catapult what might be a nonexistent Jewish element could lead to violence against Jews," and called on the media to learn from this incident, while investigating who exactly created the film.[101]

    Sky News said the video was "anti-Muslim" and "designed to enrage".[102] According to Reuters, the video portrays Muhammad as a "fool, a philanderer and a religious fake";[33] NBC News said the trailer depicted Muhammad "as a womanizer, a homosexual and a child abuser."[103] Time magazine described the dialogue during the scene with a donkey as "homoerotic".[104] According to the BBC, Muhammad's followers are portrayed as "savage killers hungry for wealth and bent on killing women and children."[105]

    The New Republic said that the film "includes not a single artistically redeemable aspect" with "atrocious" directing, "terrible" sets and acting consisting of "blank eyes and strained line readings".[106] The New York Daily News called it an "obscenely inept vanity project" that is "far beneath any reasonable standard of movie-making."[107] Muslim filmmaker Kamran Pasha stated, "I am of the opinion that it is a film of questionable artistic merit, backed by a group of bitter bigots whose only agenda was to incite hatred and violence by smearing the character of Prophet Muhammad."[108] Salman Rushdie called the filmmaker "outrageous and unpleasant and disgusting",[109] and characterized the production as "clearly a malevolent piece of garbage."[110]

    Africa

    Nation Cities Information
     Kenya Mombasa The Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya organized a demonstration of about 100 people in Mombasa in protest against the film.[111]
     Mauritius Port Louis Hizb-Ut-Tahrir, an Islamic Cultural Association organized a peaceful march to protest against the spread of this film. The march, which was attended by about fifty people, began at the SSR Botanical Garden in Port Louis to the Office of the Embassy of the United States House. Fadlur Rahman, the leader of Hizb-Ut-Tahrir submitted a letter to the U.S. embassy in which he requests to block access to this film on the Internet.[112]
     Nigeria Jos
    Sokoto
    Kano
    Kaduna
    Top Muslim Nigerian clerics condemned the film, but advised against demonstrations. "Such actions are orchestrated by the enemies of peace to bring about chaos which must be condemned by religious leaders all over the world". Nevertheless security forces around the country were on alert for trouble.[113] Protests were held in Jos and Sokoto.[114] On Sep 22 "tens of thousands" of demonstrators led by the Islamic Movement of Nigeria in Kano. On September 24, Thousands of people protested in Kaduna[115][116]
     Niger Zinder The Niger Islamic Council has repudiated the film that has caused mass riots and called for Christian churches to be spared in the protests.[117] However, hundreds of protesters stormed and ransacked Catholic cathedral in Zinder and burned American and British flags. One policeman was injured and about a dozen protesters were arrested.[117][118]
     Somalia Mogadishu Nearly a thousand people protested the film in Mogadishu, Somalia.[119]
     South Africa Johannesburg About 4,000 people gathered near the U.S. Consulate in Johannesburg. The protesters demanded the U.S. government to issue a public apology over the film and called for the punishment of those behind the film. The South African government earlier banned demonstrations near the U.S. embassy.[120]
     Sudan Khartoum Several hundred protesters from a group called "Sudanese Youth" gathered outside of the U.S. embassy in Khartoum on September 12. The embassy met with three protesters, who delivered written demands asking for an apology and the removal of the YouTube video.[121]
     Tanzania Zanzibar City Demonstrations were held in Kidongo Chekundu, Zanzibar City on September 21.[122]
     Uganda Kampala Pakistani businessmen in Kampala protested and paralyzed business. Several business around the city remained closed.[123]

    Americas

    Nation Cities Information
     Brazil São Paulo
    Rio de Janeiro
    About 500–600 people, including mostly members of the local Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian communities but also many non-Muslims, especially Roman Catholics and Jews promoting religious tolerance, held demonstrations in São Paulo, where Hassan Gharib, among the organizers of the protest march, stated that the anti-Islam movie was produced “to incite a dispute between Muslims and Christians” but this will not happen since “the Muslims and the Christians are brothers; we come from the same source.”[124][125] Protests were also held in Rio de Janeiro.[126] A court order was issued in São Paulo demanding the video to be removed from YouTube.[127]
     Canada Calgary
    Toronto
    More than 100 people held demonstrations at Calgary's City Hall. Mahdi Qasqas with the Muslim Council of Calgary says that the protest does not only concern about the latest anti-Islam film. "This is not the only hate-filled, hate-speech video that’s out there — there are many," Quaqas said. "Hate is not just a phenomena [sic] that’s related to Muslims. It’s related to all minorities all non-dominant population groups and we’re here to stop all of that.”[128] On September 22, about 1,500 held demonstrations outside the U.S. Consulate in Toronto.[129]
     United States Dearborn
    Canton
    New York
    Chicago
    Philadelphia
    Washington D.C.
    Protesters gathered in the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn on September 22 and is claimed to be the first protest in America. The protest did not only condemn the film but also the extreme response in the Muslim world.[130] Protests were also organized in nearby, Canton on September 29.[131] Protesters demonstrated outside the United Nations building in New York on September 28. Similar protests were reported in Chicago and Philadelphia.[132] There were also demonstrations held in front of the White House.[133]

    Asia

    Nation Cities Information
     Afghanistan Jalalabad
    Kabul
    A demonstration of about 1,000 people was held against the film in Jalalabad. The protesters burned an effigy of U.S. President Barack Obama.[134][135] Protests were also held by 500 people in Kabul.[136]
     Bangladesh Dhaka
    Chittagong
    1,000 members of the Bangladesh Khilafat Andolan group demonstrated and attempted to march on the U.S. embassy in Dhaka, though they were stopped from approaching the embassy by police. There were no reports of violence.[137] Many more protests were held in Dhaka with the protests on September 21 seeing approximately 10,000 people. Protesters in Chittagong also torched a bus and a police van. Three students were arrested according to the police. A nationwide strike was held on September 23.[138]
     China Hong Kong Nearly three thousand protesters demonstrated in Hong Kong on September 24.[139]
     India Srinagar
    Chennai
    Puducherry
    Demonstrations were held in Srinagar, Kashmir, as local imams denounced the film saying "It is our right to protest against this heinous act aimed at hurting the sentiments of the Muslims. However, we should not indulge in vandalism as we will causing harm to our own property. We shall remain peaceful." During a protest that started on September 14 and continued for three days, U.S. consulate at Chennai was pelted with stones breaking some window panes, allegedly by members of the Muslim NGO Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazagham and as a result, the issuing of visas by the consulate was cancelled for two days. Google started blocking access of the video on YouTube from Indian IP addresses at the request of the government of India. Attempts to view the video will result in the message "This content is not available in your country due to a government removal request."[140][141] Protests were held in front of the French consulate in Puducherry. The protesters criticized U.S. and France.[142]
     Indonesia Jakarta
    Medan
    Makassar
    Surabaya
    An anti-American and anti-Israeli demonstration was held outsite the embassy in Jakarta by about 200 protesters.[143] Similar protests were held in Medan,[144] Makassar[145] and Surabaya[146]
     Japan Tokyo About 300 people, with many coming from Myanmar and Pakistan, held demonstrations in the Shibuya district in Tokyo over the anti-Muslim film on September 21. The protests were originally meant to draw the attention to the condition of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar but ended up focusing on criticizing the United States. Organizers were planning another protest on Friday, September 28.[147]
     Kyrgyzstan Bishkek Around 100 people held demonstrations in Bishkek on September 25, which lasted less than 30 minutes.
     Malaysia Kuala Lumpur
    Batu Caves
    Ipoh
    A protest was held by a group of about 30 Muslims representing various Islamic organizations at the American embassy in Kuala Lumpur. Protests were also held at Batu Caves and in the northern city of Ipoh.[148]
     Maldives Malé Protests were held outside the United Nations building in the capital city of Malé in the Maldives over the anti-Islam film. About 200 to 400 protesters were present in the demonstrations. A private newspaper reported the protesters also set fire to an American flag outside the UN building.[134][149]
     Nepal Kathmandu Demonstrations were held in Kathmandu which condemns the film and calls for U.S. authorities to investigate the authors of the film.[150]
     Pakistan Islamabad
    Peshawar
    Karachi
    Swat
    Lahore
    Multan
    Mardan
    Ghulam Ahmad Bilour, Minister of Railways, offered a $100,000 award for killing the maker of the film.[151] However, Pakistani prime minister and Bilour's party condemned his remarks.[152] Protests were held at the U.S. embassy in Islamabad and in Peshawar, Karachi, and Swat by the Jamaat-e-Islami, and in Multan by Jamiat Talba Arbia and Shehri Mahaz.[151] In Lahore, demonstration was held by Tehreek-e-Hurmat-e-Rasool and 10,000 people protested against the film, despite a ban on rallies. One Pakistani died from smoke inhalation eminating from burning American flags at the rally.[153] On September 13, Altaf Hussain, chief of Mutahidda Qaumi Movement, sent a telegram to US President, US Secretary of State, Secretary General of United Nations, and Secretary General of OIC in which he demanded that the movie should be banned immediately as it has hurt the feelings of over one billion Muslims throughout the world.[154][155] On September 21, around 1,500 of people broke through the gates of St Paul's Lutheran Church in Mardan. September 22 was declared as a public holiday, 'Yaum-e-Ishq-e-Mustafa' meanings the day for the love of Mustafa, and whole Pakistan protested before and after the Jumma prayer. Hundreds of Christians protested in Sahiwal to condemn the film on September 23.[156]
     Philippines Marawi
    Manila
    On September 15, more than 300 protesters organized in Marawi, Lanao del Sur over the film and burned American flags. There were threats to kill Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, who is believed to be behind the controversial film. American interest remained unharmed in the province. The largest Muslim insurgent group Moro Islamic Liberation Front urged Filipino Muslims not to resort to violence.[157] More than 3,000 protesters organized another demonstrations in Marawi, Lanao del Sur over the film and burned American flags on September 17.[158] About 300 protesters also protested on September 24 near the U.S. embassy in Manila calling for a ban on the film. The protest leaders also said that they would file a petition to the Supreme Court of the Philippines for a ban of the posting of the film on the internet.[159] The Supreme Court granted the petition to block the film the day after the protests in Manila.[160]
     Singapore   There were no violent protests at the point of time, except for the Amy Cheong's case whereby it insulted about the Malay weddings and at the same time, due to TPSS (3N1) table resolvance.

    On Thursday, September 20, 2012, Google started blocking access of the video on YouTube from Singaporean IP addresses although it had not been found in the YouTube searches (Only several can be seen although it is a movie trailer).[161]

     Sri Lanka Colombo About 2000 protesters held demonstrations near the U.S. embassy in Colombo in protest of the film on September 21. The protesters also burned effigies of U.S. President Obama and American flags as part of the protests.[134][162] Thousands of protesters marched towards the embassy calling for a ban on American brand names in protests of the film.[163]
     Thailand Bangkok
    Phuket
    About 400 people held demonstrations against the film outside the U.S. embassy in Bangkok.[164] Protests were also held in Phuket on September 27.[165]

    Europe

    Nation Cities Information
     Azerbaijan Baku
    Nardaran
    Nearly 100 people protested against the film in Baku. They were prevented from reaching the US embassy by police who arrested some 30 protestors, and beat several others.[166] Protest were also held in Nardaran.[167]
     Belgium Antwerp Demonstrations were held in Antwerp in response to the anti-Islam film on September 16. The protestors chanted anti-U.S. slogans and burned an American flag. The Belgian police arrested 230 people, a leader of the Islamist group Sharia4Belgium is among those arrested.[168]
     Denmark Copenhagen Demonstrations were held by members of Hizb ut-Tahrir in front of the U.S. embassy in Copenhagen.[169]
     France Paris Over 100 arrested in protest of anti-Islam film outside U.S. embassy in Paris. On Saturday afternoon September 15, 2012, up to 250 protesters gathered around the U.S. embassy in Paris responding to a call put out on Facebook, police officer Pierre Coric said.[170]

    In addition, the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo published caricatures of Muhammad, several of which depicted him as naked,[171] causing the French government to increase security at certain French embassies and close the embassies in about 20 countries, and riot police surrounded the offices of the magazine to protect against possible attacks. The magazine was firebombed in 2011 after an edition mocked radical Islam.[171][172][173]

    The French government banned a planned protest that was due to be held on September 22 in the Grand Mosque of Paris. Violators of the ban shall spend 6 months of imprisonment and fined 700 euros.[174]

     Germany Freiburg
    Muenster
    Dortmund
    Protests were held by around 1,000 people in Freiburg and Muenster on September 21. About 1,500 people also held demonstrations in Dortmund on September 22.[175]
     Greece Athens On Sep 23 hundred of Muslims protested at the American embassey, some throwing stones, bottles and shoes at the building. Muslim inmates at a local prison lit beds on fire in solidarity with the demonstrations.[176][177]
     Ireland Dublin Hundreds of protesters protested near Google's European Headquarters in Dublin demanded removal of the video the protesters also targeted the U.S. embassy in Dublin.[178]
     Italy Rome Thousands of protesters held demonstrations near the U.S. embassy in Rome on September 21.[179]
     Macedonia Skopje Over 100 protesters gathered around the city mosque in Skopje on September 21.[180]
     Malta   In an unprecedented move, Imam Mohammad El Sadi prohibited Muslims in Malta to hold protests.[181]
     Netherlands Amsterdam The American consulate in Amsterdam closed earlier than usual on September 14 in anticipation of a protest. A peaceful demonstration of around 30 people took place on the Dam Square in the center of Amsterdam. Dutch politician Geert Wilders linked the YouTube video Innocence of Muslims to his website. Shortly after it became known that Wilders had put the video online, his own website and that of the Party for Freedom became unreachable. Geert Wilders motivated his action by stating "defending freedom of expression is the greatest good. Everyone should do that as a signal that violence is not accepted and is not working."[182][183]
     Norway Oslo Thousands held protests in Oslo.[184]
     Russia Kazan Russia plans to block access to YouTube if Google fails to remove the film following a court order, according to Communications Minister Nikolai Nikiforov.[185] Demonstrations were held in Kazan, Tartarstan on September 26.[186] October 1, a Moscow district court found the film to be extremist.[187] but Russia’s Human Rights Ombudsman Vladimir Lukin says he will not oppose the ban.[188]
     Serbia Novi Pazar In Novi Pazar, the Torcida Sandžak group organized a protest in the form of a public march which was attended by thousands of people.[189][190] The protest was held in a peaceful manner without negative incidents.[191][192]
     Switzerland Bern Protesters organized by the Islamic Central Council of Switzerland were held in Bern on September 23. The organizer president, Nikola Blawnshow blamed U.S. officials for producing the film. He also criticized the French government for banning protests against the film while at the same time allowing Charlie Hebdo magazine, to publish cartoon depictions of Prophet Mohammad.[193]
     Turkey Istanbul Hundreds gathered at Beyazit Square in Istanbul in a peaceful demonstration against the film called by the Turkish Felicity Party (aka as Saadet Party), a marginal conservative party not represented in the Turkish parliament.[194]

    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan called on the international community to recognize Islamophobia as a crime against humanity.[195] He also said: "Legal and peaceful protest by Muslims is a useful and correct thing; but a protest cannot envisage any kind of violence or terrorism”.[196]

    The YouTube video was blocked access by the Ministry of Transport and Communication upon a court ruling.[197]

     Ukraine Simferopol Demonstrations were held in Simferopol in the Ukrainian autonomous Republic of Crimea.[186]
     United Kingdom London
    Birmingham
    Cardiff
    Bradford
    A demonstration of 200 people gathered outside the U.S. embassy in London, burning the U.S. and Israeli flags. The Daily Mail reported Anjem Choudary was leading the flag-burning protests. No reports of violence.[134][198][199] A smaller protest involving around 100 people was also reported in Birmingham outside the Bullring shopping centre on September 21.[200] Around 100 Muslim protesters held a demonstration in Cardiff, displaying placards including 'USA burn in hell' and 'Islam for France'.[201] The demonstration was organised by Abu Hajar, a member of Islamic Path, a group that is listed as a proscribed terrorist organisation by the Home Office, the UK government office for the interior.[202] There were no reports of violence. Protest were also held in Bradford.[203][204]

    Middle East and North Africa

    Nation Cities Information
     Algeria Kouba A demonstration of about 60 people were held in the town of Kouba. The protesters chanted slogans praising Islam and Prophet Muhammad and rejected Islamophobia and insults to religious symbols.[205]
     Bahrain Diraz A demonstration of 2,000 protesters was held in Diraz, a focal point for Shiite opposition to the Sunni monarchy.[194]
     Egypt Cairo Protests were held in Cairo, outside the U.S. embassy.[206] Egypt requested that the international organization Interpol issue an international wanted persons alert for eight people who were linked to the film, on charges of "harming the unity of the nation and defamation of the Islamic religion". Among those people is the controverisal pastor, Terry Jones, who allegedly helped promote the film.[207][208]

    Coptic Christian blogger Alber Saber was arrested on September 13 for allegedly uploading a copy of the video to his Facebook page. Though authorities later stated they had found no evidence that he had uploaded the video, they charged him with "defamation of Islam and Christianity" for other religious writings on his site.[209][210] The case drew protests from numerous NGOs,[211][212] and Amnesty International designated him a prisoner of conscience.[210]

     Iran Tehran Protests occurred outside the Swiss embassy in Tehran which represents American interests in the Islamic Republic. Iranian police prevented the protesters from reaching the embassy gates, and no injuries were reported. The Iranian Foreign Ministry condemned the film as "an insult to sacred Muslim figures" while criticizing the response of the United States government.[213] In response to the film, Ayatollah Hassan Sanei, the leader of the state-linked religious foundation that originally placed a bounty on Salman Rushdie's head, increased the reward by $500,000 to whoever kills Rushdie. This increases the reward to $3.3 million, despite Rushdie having nothing to do with Innoncence of Muslims and even actually condemning it.[214][215][216] Iran announced that in protest of the film, it would boycott the 2013 Oscars.[217]
     Iraq Sadr City
    Basra
    Najaf
    Hilla
    Samarra
    Hundreds protested against the film in Baghdad's Sadr City and in Basra. A smaller crowd protested in Najaf. Protesters burned American flags, chanted "Death to America" and called on the Iraqi government to expel the American diplomats. The protests were organized by Shi'ite leader Moqtada al-Sadr and, at least in Basra, included both Sunni and Shi'ite clerics. In Hilla in the Shiite-dominated southern region, American and Israeli flags were burned. In Samarra clerics demanded a boycott of American goods.[218][219]
     Israel Tel Aviv
    Acre
    Jerusalem
    About 50 members of the Islamic Movement in Israel protested in front the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv, alleging that the United States' government sponsors "little people" who hurt Islam and Muslims. There were no clashes or disturbances. In Acre, Arab protestors said that "only Islamic rule throughout the world will make peace. Jews and Christians can live without fear under the wings of Islam." Some chanted support for Osama bin Laden as well.[220][221][222] Soon after, a few hundred Arab protestors attempted to march from the Temple Mount to the American consulate, and threw stones at police, who broke up the protest and prevented them from reaching the American consulate.[223]

    On September 21, 2012, an Egyptian militant group attacked Israeli soldiers near the Egyptian-Israeli border, killing an Israeli personnel. In the ensuing gunfight between the Israeli Caracal Battalion and the militants,[224] three militants were killed. The militant group cited the video as their motive for the attack.[7]

    On October 2, 2012, a group of Israelis gathered at the United States Embassy in Tel Aviv to demonstrate support for America following diplomatic attacks and protests against America across the Arab world. Israeli and American flags were waved while signs read "Israel: America’s best friend in the Middle East." One demonstrator said, "Americans should be proud of what they represent – the free world."[225]

     Jordan Amman In Amman, 200 Salafis demonstrated at the U.S. embassy while 1,400 Muslim Brotherhood supporters in central Amman.[226]
     Lebanon Tripoli
    Beirut
    Protestors torched a KFC and a Hardee's in Tripoli.[227] Over 1,000 people also held protests on September 21 in Beirut.[228]
     Kuwait Kuwait City An anti-American demonstration was held outside the U.S. embassy in Kuwait by about 200 protesters.[143]
     Mauritania Nouakchott Protests were held in the capital, Nouakchott.[229]
     Morocco Casablanca
    Salé
    Agence France Press reported that 300 to 400 protesters had gathered outside the U.S. Consulate in Casablanca on September 12, amid a heavy presence of Moroccan police. The protest was non-violent, organized via social media and did not appear to be organized by a specific group. Around 200 hardline Islamists gathered in Salé, twin town to the Moroccan capital Rabat, shouting anti-U.S. slogans and burning U.S. flags.[230][231]
     Oman Muscat
    Salalah
    About 50 protesters blockaded all roads towards the U.S. embassy in Muscat to protest against the controversial film. Protests were also held in the center of Salalah by about 50 people[232]
     Palestinian territories Gaza
    Nablus
    Protests were reported in the Gaza Strip as being called for by the Hamas government's Ministry of Religious Endowments in front of the Palestinian Legislative Council building in Gaza city. Dozens of Palestinians protested, while some burned American and Israeli flags, chanting, "Death to America! Death to Israel!" International agencies closed their offices in Gaza for a day as a precautionary measure. The following day, several hundred Palestinians across the Gaza strip protested the film, with Hamas and the smaller Islamic Jihad faction encouraging protests. In Gaza city several hundred took to the streets, burned American and Israeli flags along with an effigy of the film's producer. Several hundred people protested in Nablus in the northern West Bank and burned an American flag.[221][233][234]
     Qatar Doha At least 2,000 people marched towards the U.S. embassy in Doha from the Omar ibn Al-Khatab mosque alongside the Doha Expressway on September 14 denouncing the controversial film.[235]
     Saudi Arabia Buraidah A protest was held outside of McDonald's in Buraidah.[236]
     Syria Damascus A demonstration of 200 people march on the empty U.S. embassy in Damascus.[194]
     Tunisia Tunis Irish Times reports that 200 protesters demonstrated in front of the United States embassy in Tunis, throwing rocks, burning the American flag and chanting slogans. They were dispersed by police with teargas and rubber bullets.[237]
     United Arab Emirates   The Telecommunication and Regulatory Authority of the UAE commanded Etisalat and Du to block the video on YouTube and mirror sites on the September 17, 2012 as a violation of cultural norms.[238]

    Oceania

    Nation City Information
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    Demonstrators carrying signs at the Sydney protest

    On September 15, 2012, up to 500 people gathered to protest the film outside the United States Consulate General in Martin Place, Sydney, New South Wales. Demonstrators, including children,[239] carried signs with messages such as "Behead all those who insult the Prophet". Police attempted to form a line in front of the protesters however the line broke which caused the demonstration to become mobile. Police used pepper spray and deployed police dogs amid violent confrontations with protesters. Six police officers, several protesters and civilians were injured, two police vehicles were also damaged in the protest. Protesters directly attacked police by throwing projectiles and assaulting officers with banners, the latter led to one officer being knocked unconscious.[240][241]

     

    The Administration was damned busy saving the world....which seemed entirely capable of spinning entirely out of control.

     

    Benghazi Fever is a strange infection that makes one seem incapable of seeing the wider forest. But, even in Benghazi they focus on the minutiae, because there was a real forest to see in Benghazi also for anyone willing to see it.

     

    So really, it is worse than a nothing burger, it is a dishonest nothing burger.

     

    Best Wishes, Traveller

     

  • Reply to: War on an abstract noun Open Thread.   4 hours 5 sec ago

     True story from today:

     

    Ring: Man's voice, "Ken told me you were good....at most things. Different things."

     

    "Yes, I am known for this, I am far from the best lawyer in the world, sometimes I think I'm pretty terrible, but for unusual stuff, I am pretty good...for professionals, for people with odd circumstances, yes...I'm not bad, meaning I am at least honest with you.

     

    What's the problem?" I query.

     

    "I have a roommate, a partner I need to move out."

     

    Ah

     

    "Yes. More than 10 years."

     

    This is not the worse problem in the world; I say. A little different, I haven't done much roommate eviction law. I may have to do some research, but I am sure it is doable.

     

    "There's a problem."

     

    Yes?

     

    "They have my Kidney."

     

    Pardon me?

     

    "Yes, I donated to them my kidney 6 years ago.

     

    And we are fighting now."

     

    Ahhh, I say, that is unusual, almost like evicting yourself, if you know what I mean. Is there anything else I should know, my mind reeling a little already.

     

    "My kidney is failing."

     

    Which Kidney? I feel it necessary to ask.

     

    "The donated one."

     

    Maybe this is why you are fighting? I suggest. Maybe it would be best if the two of you talked.

     

    "Yes," he answered, "that maybe would be good."

     

    Give it some time, I say. I think this is more important than you are letting on, this is not a roommate dispute, you two need to think and talk about this.

     

    "Yes.

     

    That would be good.

     

    Thanks.

     

    I'll call you back."

     

    My pleasure. Any time.

     

    Best Wishes, Traveller

     

     

  • Reply to: War on an abstract noun Open Thread.   6 hours 33 min ago

    Fine acting:

  • Reply to: War on an abstract noun Open Thread.   6 hours 46 min ago

    And if he's trashing the party, it's definitely going to impact his ability to successfully run for President. How it affects his ability to keep his Senate seat will ultimately depend on what his own state thinks of him, and if a credible challenger arises there to possibly defeat him. Barbara Boxer is dumber than burnt toast scrapings, and she wins because California Republicans have been inept for the past twenty years. No reason to think Cruz can't do the same in Texas.

  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   6 hours 57 min ago

    passed MJ legalization via referendum, not Democratic lead legislation.

     

    Dumb point, my apologies.

  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   8 hours 5 min ago

    and the timing of the administration's official explanation.

     

    By "lied by omission", I assume you mean specifically that the administration withheld the real intel on it being a coordinated terrorist attack, and they did this for political rather than security reasons?  I don't care about accusations of who is politicizing what.

     

    If true, this level of scandal is about a notch or two lower than the closest parallel I can find with the Bush administration: the Pat Tillman trajedy.  Unlike Benghazi, it was pretty clear there was no national security motive to intentionally misreport the circumstances of his death.

  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   8 hours 56 min ago

    WA is across the board Dems.  CO is mixed with Republicans owning the House and a split in the Senate.  Got to give Alaska it's kudos, though pot isn't legal it doesn't appear to be prosecuted.

  • Reply to: War on an abstract noun Open Thread.   9 hours 35 min ago

    We're talking about different AUMFs.  My fault, I just threw AUMF out there but the one I was talking about was the Authorization for use of military force against Iraq resolution of 2002.  Lee was the lone 'nay' on the Authorization for use of military force against terrorists.  The clarification aside, Lee makes good points.  I mentioned the White Fleet.  I've googled the thing a few times and a point that was drilled into me in the past is barely mentioned anywhere I looked.  Roosevelt said 'come and get it back' referring to either the funding or the fleet itself, either way, the point being that once congess auhorizes the military genie out of the bottle it really has no means with which to put it back.

    I'm not sure how you see physician assisted suicide fitting in here.  Like living wills and powers of attorney, it's the wishes of the soon-to-be-departed that matter.  While assisted suicide and living wills are explicit, it's implied with a PA that the holder of the PA is entrusted by the soon-to-be-departed with making that choice. 

  • Reply to: War on an abstract noun Open Thread.   10 hours 11 min ago

    Where's MScott to say this slash-and-burn Cruz fellow better stop trashing the party and fall in line?

     

    Also, I just watched the clip you linked to and Cruz is a slimy ambulance chaser.

  • Reply to: Tesla: How to Make Conservative Investors Lose Their Shirts   10 hours 18 min ago

    The company has just made a notable action by - nine years ahead of schedule - paying the Government (DoE) back $452.4 million on its loan : the cash provided by recent stock and bond offerings (more crap luck for the short-sellers).

  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   11 hours 20 min ago

    Kessler has been credible

  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   12 hours 4 min ago

    Arnie punked him for the California Governorship.

     

    "Thanks for knocking 'ol Gray out of office, now please step aside." 

  • Reply to: War on an abstract noun Open Thread.   13 hours 3 min ago

    Cruz does not trust Republicans on the debt ceiling. I don't trust Cruz on pretty much anything, and for good reason. When only a quarter of your statements are true or mostly true, then you're not trustworthy.

     

  • Reply to: War on an abstract noun Open Thread.   13 hours 3 min ago
  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   13 hours 5 min ago

    The scandal, as explained to me by a wise conservative guru, was that Obama failed to don his Super President suit and fly the Omnicar to Benghazi in time to rescue the ambassador and his colleagues in time.

     

    Or something like that.

  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   13 hours 11 min ago

    is a good time to remind others of Darrell Issa's colorful past. Besides the arrests for weapons charges and car theft there was that unfortunate tendency to embellish his military record.

     

    As for Ad Hominem perhaps you should look up the definition of minion in the dictionary.

  • Reply to: The Irrelevant and Pfoolish Pfeiffer   13 hours 12 min ago

    First, there were no protests at the consulate prior to the attack. This was confirmed from multiple sources. This was a planned, premeditated attack on a civilian outpost, therefore a terrorist attack.

    Second, Hicks called for military assistance twice, per his testimony, and was denied.

    Your item 3 is correct.

    Rice's statement (and her other statements) was proven false, as I detailed here, and further refuted by the first draft of the talking points.

    The White House held out for a couple of weeks, maybe longer, maintaining that Benghazi was not a terrorist attack, followed by changing stories, downtalking, falsehoods, etc.

    I haven't read the Pickering-McMullen report, but I understand that it did lambaste the State Department for its poor security and management.

    I am not saying that what the White House was illegal, or that this is Watergate II. I am saying that the Obama administration lied by omission and, in doing so, politicized the murders of four Americans, and piled on the politicizing by accusing Romney of politicizing what took place in Cairo and Benghazi.