Newsflash! Forvm hit by coup! Film at 11!


Ok folks, here are the facts:

1) Due to difficulties with our current web-host, Hank was not able to get our traditional voting system up and running in time for this week's election.

1a) Hank is out of action until perhaps next week

2) We have instead been running on an older retread, along with some unfortunate time-travel-like effects for the front page.

3) Several of the leading vote-getters have asked me to postpone finalizing the current election results until Hank can get the correct system going, once he's available.

4) One other mod is in agreement with this, and it wouldn't bother me, either.

5) I'd rather not set off a Honduras-like round of constitutional navel-gazing, however, so I'd like to hear from anybody who strongly objects to holding off for Hank and re-running the election.

6) Keep in mind that doing so will further, in a tiny way, my life-long dream to be an unelected, coup-mongering, dictatorial despot, just like my boyhood hero Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

What say you?

Jefe Maximo, Colonel Bernardo Guerrero
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-“It is unwise for the government to tell people how they can spend their money” - Barney Frank, Chairman House Financial Services Committee, on on-line gambling, 2009

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Paging MA (#172194)
by hobbesist

Could you send me an email? I tried to send one to you, but it got bounced back.

Thanks!

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Bene vixit, bene qui latuit

Done (#172238)
by M Aurelius

nt

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My country, right or wrong is a thing no patriot would ever think of saying... It is like saying 'My mother, drunk or sober.' -Chesterton

If this was a proper coup (#172112)
by nyoos junkey

then we wouldn't be reading this.... we'd just get the national flag and the national anthem playing on loop.

Despair Number 2, July 1, 2009 (#172111)
by Traveller

Traveller

I see no good grounds here... (#172073)
by vinteuil

...for changing the rules in mid-stream.

*Prima facie*, it looks to me like Sulla, M.A., & Bernard were elected fair & square, and that should be the end of it.

Besides: I can hardly think of a better team.

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God help the while, a bad world I say.

For the record... (#172077)
by M Aurelius

I am willing to be a mod, but I'm in no hurry.

The current triumvirate can do whatever it deems best. They have my full support regardless.

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My country, right or wrong is a thing no patriot would ever think of saying... It is like saying 'My mother, drunk or sober.' -Chesterton

Same here (#172113)
by Sulla

I would prefer the election mirror the ones in the past where one vote equals one vote. If it takes a week or two to figure out how to accomplish that then no big deal.

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"We should not tie the hands of law enforcement in the effort to bring these terrorists to justice"- Leon E. Panetta

I'm quite willing to support the current election results (#172172)
by BlaiseP

If the current and proposed mods are amenable. Work it out among yourselves, guys.

I would prefer you guys take over in a disputed election (#172168)
by catchy

It should happen to every democracy and now's our time to shine.

I'll be arranging a protest tea party shortly so we can fire (#172189)
by tomsyl

shots into the air like a proper ME wedding. Oops, someone just said they haven't called the local product "tea" since this place became a state. Never mind - meet me behind the hustings and we'll discuss who gets to fly that guy from Honduras in to take over.

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Sincerity is the first casualty of capitalism. John Burdett

Ahem, I Don't Want to Say I Predicted this in the Old Thread... (#172067)
by Traveller

....stolen elections, missing ballot boxes, one Candidate running and, about to be elected to a post I don't think they consented to.

This is beyond the Guardian Council's work, beyond that of the Mullah's....

I sense the hand of MacCellan the Magnificent and All Powerful....lol

Best Wishes, Traveller

The moderators need a press secretary (#172190)
by tomsyl

to provide them with cover in times like these. I can think of several cartoon characters besides Dilbert that would fit the bill. Let's have a separate election on just that issue.

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Sincerity is the first casualty of capitalism. John Burdett

Will there be interim PR changes? (#172036)
by tomsyl

My biannual suggestions from "Bananas" - feel free to load the whole thing verbatim into your teleprompter:

l am your new president.

From this day on,the official language of San Marcos will be Swedish.

[Silence.]

ln addition to that, all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half hour.

Underwear will be worn on the outside so we can check.

Furthermore, all children under 18 years old are now 18 years old.

[BYSTANDER 1: "What's the Spanish word for ''straitjacket''?']

[BYSTANDER 2: "The power has driven him mad."]

We must have a new leader.

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Sincerity is the first casualty of capitalism. John Burdett

Blaise, you first job is... (#172037)
by Bernard Guerrero

....to carry tomsyl away somewhere and have him beaten on the soles of his feet with over-priced Monster HDMI cables, preferably purchased for full retail at Best Buy on t.'s own credit card. We'll see how funny he thinks he is then.

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-“It is unwise for the government to tell people how they can spend their money” - Barney Frank, Chairman House Financial Services Committee, on on-line gambling, 2009

You cannot beat the feet of an American citizen (#172065)
by BlaiseP

without written permission from the State Department.

Will Photoshop..... (#172066)
by Bernard Guerrero

....and an old doctor's note suffice? Or we can go with an Enron stock certificate, they have all kinds of fancy background.

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-“It is unwise for the government to tell people how they can spend their money” - Barney Frank, Chairman House Financial Services Committee, on on-line gambling, 2009

Here's my permission slip: (#172174)
by BlaiseP

$h!t you not, that was his business card. He had sort of a crush on my girlfriend at the time.

There is unquestionably a story buried there. (#172191)
by tomsyl

Isn't the guy getting out soon? I've heard roumors of a wizened double of Herve Villachaize limping from one Miami niteclub to another with a black beeper fastened to his leg.

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Sincerity is the first casualty of capitalism. John Burdett

That story is in a shallow grave, Tomsyl. (#172215)
by BlaiseP

You seem to have heard the same scurrilous rumours I've been hearing. Pizza Face is on the loose.

A great movie for the long weekend, if you haven't seen it. (#172220)
by tomsyl

Shallow Grave, that is, not the coming Noriega biopic posthumously starring a bulked-up Edward James Olmos.

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Sincerity is the first casualty of capitalism. John Burdett

Agree. Even better than Trainspotting (#172222)
by mmghosh

or Danny Boy's more recent stuff.

What are a few murders between friends? (#172224)
by BlaiseP

You seem eminently suited to this post but I wonder if you could explain the gaps in your employment record?

RENTON: Yes, I can. The truth -- well, the truth is that I've had a long-standing problem with heroin addiction. I've been known to sniff it, smoke it, swallow it, stick it up my arse and inject it into my veins. I've been trying to combat this addiction, but unless you count social security scams and shoplifting, I haven't had a regular job in years. I feel it's important to mention this.

OK OK, I loved Trainspotting too. (#172228)
by mmghosh

The book, even more than the movie. But Shallow Grave is better. Its the difference between King Lear and...um...Tamburlaine.

Shallow Grave... (#172248)
by vinteuil

...was a hopeless mess.

Trainspotting was a *really stylish* hopeless mess.

Neither the one nor the other particularly cries out for any comparisons to Marlowe or Shake-spear.

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God help the while, a bad world I say.

Well, living the rest of my life above a suspended ceiling (#172360)
by tomsyl

was a practical aspect I took away from Shallow Graves so personally I disagree.

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Sincerity is the first casualty of capitalism. John Burdett

Much better version of the Shallow Grave story = A Simple Plan (#172308)
by Jordan

with Bill Paxton, Bridget Fonda, Billy Bob Thornton, Brent Briscoe, dir. Sam Raimi. A decent married man hard up for cash, his mildly retarded brother and their absolutely worthless friend find a duffel bag full of cash in a downed airplane in the Minnesota snow. All they have to do is wait out the Spring, and they're in the clear. Simple, right? But the plan quickly and rivetingly devolves to the level of its human element a la The Good, The Bad & The Ugly. Which film both later films riff on, incidentally.

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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
–Voltaire

I thought just the opposite. (#172359)
by tomsyl

But maybe that's because I read A Simple Plan before seeing the movie. But of course it was Smith's first, and therefore bests effort. The Ruins was such a relentless downer that I regret reading it.

AFA TGTB&TU, nothing could possibly compare to his Once Upon A Time In The WestOnce Upon A Time In America

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Sincerity is the first casualty of capitalism. John Burdett

Agreed on the Once Upon A Time epics, but Vinteuil (#172372)
by Jordan

got me thinking of Macbeth & King Lear, and therefore simple, brutal fables about men, money & women sprang to mind. I can't imagine a novelist could do much better than the tight, nervewracking tragedy of manners Sam Raimi put together. The basic story is kind of trashy...much as with Macbeth. :)

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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
–Voltaire

The Good, the Bad, the Ugly had a human element? (#172340)
by mmghosh

OK music, perhaps, but apart from that there wasn't much human element, maybe apart from the Ugly character, IIRC. The first one of the trilogy did, maybe, but then it was a spin off Kurosawa.

I meant human in Nietzsche's sense, of course. (#172343)
by Jordan

Better yet, G.B. Shaw's. :)

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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
–Voltaire

I'll go with Manish here (#172299)
by nyoos junkey

on the Marlowe. Why he is compared to The Bard is either burried in some play of his I've never seen or read or else is the work of academics looking for something to write about.

It's Faust's final speech: (#172380)
by vinteuil

"Now hast thou but one bare hour to live, And then thou must be damn'd perpetually!

"Stand still, you ever-moving spheres of heaven, That time may cease, and midnight never come; Fair Nature's eye, rise, rise again, and make Perpetual day; or let this hour be but a year, a month, a week, a natural day, That Faustus may repent and save his soul!

"O lente, lente currite, noctis equi!

"The stars move still, time runs, the clock will strike, The devil will come, and Faustus must be damn'd.

"O, I'll leap up to heaven!

"--Who pulls me down?--

"See, where Christ's blood streams in the firmament! One drop of blood will save me: O my Christ!

"-- Rend not my heart for naming of my Christ; Yet will I call on him: O, spare me, Lucifer!--"

&c.

There's an old and mostly pretty awful movie that Richard Burton & Elizabeth Taylor made out of Marlowe's play, which is worth seeking out just to hear Richard Burton's rendition of these great lines.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be available on YouTube.

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God help the while, a bad world I say.

Well yes, (#172471)
by nyoos junkey

there is that. I wish I had read Faust first instead of Tamburlaine, I might be more charitable towards poor Marlowe whos midnight has long since passed. The Bard does just feel a little more human to me, or more in touch with the subtlty of humanity and its indignities. He can kick out what Ren and Stimpy would call The Big Angry Words with the best of thembut somehow he has me love his heros and his villains a little more.

Tamburlaine, I said. (#172394)
by mmghosh

That most hyperbolic of plays. And not far, stylistically, from the hyperbole of Trainspotting - (the toilet scene comes to mind). Whereas Lear's story - as fantastical in its way as Tamburlaine - is handled with so much more restraint. As is Kurosawa's interpretation, too.

Is This It? (#172382)
by M Scott Eiland

The relevant part starts about seven minutes in.

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A little hyperbole (#172291)
by mmghosh

is very occasionally warranted.

vinteuil, you are pretty hopeless.

Anyway, Marlowe was a bit "Trainspotting"-ish, no?

Shallow Grave was a fine flick, no doubt. (#172231)
by BlaiseP

But Trainspotting is more quotable.

Anyhoo, I just pulled that Noriega card out of the scanner, put it back in its little glass holder on my desk. Pizza Face was quite the ladies' man, though he was short, disgusting and beyond redemption. I laughed until I cried when he was transported to the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave. It was a fitting end to a grand adventure.

What has short and disgusting got to do with (#172234)
by mmghosh

not being a ladies man? The two are/were often linked, no? Exhibit A - Napoleon.

Every short dictator suffers from the same delusions. (#172235)
by BlaiseP
Nah, average height in the 18th century was five feet five (#172237)
by mmghosh

or thereabouts, and the ladies were small, too.

the average height for a man in 18th century Europe was about 5.5 feet. In England this went up to 5.6 feet for men but only 5 feet for women. Interestingly, Scottish women averaged at about 5.3 feet at the time.

Anyway, in today's world, shorter men try harder - so get better, I'm thinking.

It's a coup! A moderator coup! (#172033)
by Jordan

Meh. As long as you guys keep picking up the trash, covering my medical/dental/vision expenses, providing for the public defense & law enforcement, and educating my kids for free so I can stay home watching brain-calcifying pablum on television, all without raising my taxes over 1978 levels, you're welcome to the job. Wait. Am I on the wrong thread?

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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
–Voltaire

The CA Bankruptcy post is.... (#172035)
by Bernard Guerrero

...one floor up. Also housewares and bedding.

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-“It is unwise for the government to tell people how they can spend their money” - Barney Frank, Chairman House Financial Services Committee, on on-line gambling, 2009

Just FYI (#172028)
by hobbesist

I'm the Ayatollah Khamenei to BG's Ahmadinejad.

Believe it.

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Bene vixit, bene qui latuit

And that makes BD Allah, I suppose (#172029)
by BlaiseP

The Beneficent and Merciful

Allahu Akhbar! (#172155)
by Bird Dog

nt

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Yea, verily Blaise (#172060)
by Jay C

After all, what is "Dog" spelled backwards?

If the mods are ok with serving another week.... (#172022)
by Blue Neponset

...we should wait.

This will also give us more time to count the absentee ballots. I was polling very well with the ex-pat crowd before the election.

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I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'M crazy? - S. Tendencies

(snappy salute) A sus ordenes, comandante Bernardo! (#172021)
by BlaiseP

Let's get this place ship shape before any elections.

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