Open thread (25 October 2006)

Submitted by Bill White on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 2:49pm

Just because I have something to share and didn't want to spend a diary on it. Everyone, post whatever you want and I promise not to claim "off thread" although I may snark at you in other ways.

Edit -- Jump in people, we already have two superb flame thrower sub threads: gay marriage and stay the course.

"Stay the course" goes prime time

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Submitted by Bill White on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 2:50pm.

Link

Cheney's smiling face is an important part of this video clip.

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

Good news in NJ

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Submitted by Gabriel on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 3:04pm.

The Supreme Court does the right thing.

The State Supreme Court in New Jersey said today that same-sex couples are entitled to “the same rights and benefits enjoyed by opposite-sex couples under the civil marriage statutes.” But the court, in its 4-3 ruling, that whether that status would be called marriage, or something else, “is a matter left to the democratic process.”

The court’s eagerly awaited decision found that an arrangement similar to that of Vermont, which authorizes civil unions between same-sex couples but does not call them marriages, would be consitutional in New Jersey under the equal protection guarantees. The court gave the legislature a six-month deadline to enact the necessary legislation to provide for same-sex unions.

This place is my vacation.

An interesting ruling

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Submitted by Jay C on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 3:23pm.

But: as I read this decision, the NJSC has simply punted the issue back to the legislature: presumably with a sort of "pre-clearance" of any same-sex-union legislation they would come up with. So, then (and more learned opinion than mine would be greatly appreciated!): the NJ Legislature can either: legally recognize same-sex marriages; legally recognize same-sex "civil unions"; or legally bar either of the above? Presumably, if they do nothing, the State's "domestic partner" laws stay in place? What are the options here?

More Cut n' Runners

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Submitted by Harley on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 4:26pm.

Here. Lots more.

Setting aside the obvious -- GOP candidates will talk about Iraq as little as possible if at all in the next two weeks -- this has ramifications for the '08 candidate pool as well. For example, how long will John McCain suggest sending more troops is the way to go? And if he does so, will this cut into his ability to attract the Not-Insane wing of the party?

Time will tell.

“Two clichés make us laugh but a hundred clichés move us, because we sense dimly that the clichés are talking among themselves, celebrating a reunion." - Umberto Eco

Good Point on McCain

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Submitted by BChurch on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 4:36pm.

2 years from now, sending more troops is going to be a pretty tough sell to make. Either things will have gotten better to the point that they are unneeded, or things will have stayed the same or gotten worse-- at which point, assuming we haven't already left, calling for "more troops" would be a sure-fire political loser.

Too bad McCain is too smart to get caught in a "flip-flop" trap ala Kerry. Probably he'll just say things have changed and modify his position to something vaguer, while the media applauds him for straight talkin'.

I'd say McCain has 6 months

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Submitted by Trickster on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 4:41pm.

If he doesn't significantly adjust his Iraq position during that time frame, he's a goner.

Same song, 2nd verse for Hillary. They both have time and options, but not in infinite supply.

I've been on the record...

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Submitted by Wagster on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 4:58pm.

... as saying both sides will run on withdrawal in 2008.

But really, what seems more likely is that some Republican wise men (Warner, Lugar, et al) go visit Bush after the election and say "Mr. President, time's up." If Bush withdraws then McCain will still be credible. He'll just say "The President didn't run the war the way I would have liked him to." But if he doesn't, then either way McCain (or any other Republican candidate) is in a bit of a fix. If he's 'stay the course' or 'build up' in 2008, then that's lethal. If he changes his mind then he loses national security as an issue and is open to the flip-flop charge, but as you indicate, that at least is finessable.

"I don't want us to descend into a nation of bloggers." - Steve Jobs

Makes a lot of sense

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Submitted by Trickster on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 11:34pm.

Although Bush would blow Lugar and Warner off. It would have to be somebody with more clout among conservatives like Ralph Reed or a conservative Senator like Lott, Roberts, Allard or Stephens.

Alternatively, Bush might push back. He is a stubborn little thing. They might wind up having to get Barbara, and I'm not talking about Jenna's sister.

Then again, probably it's Rove who is the real man to convince. In which case look to conservative money men and organizers to make the intervention. Those guys are probably ready to roll, which makes me think your theory just might come to pass.

Bush cares about two things --

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Submitted by Kimmitt on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 4:13am.

Being The Decider and looking like a bigger man than his dad.

We aren't withdrawing until after the '08 election, period. A whole lot of people are gonna die for Dubya's daddy complex and our decision to indulge it.

"In the very long run, we are all dead." -- John Maynard Keynes, 1st Baron Keynes

Well, Rove...

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Submitted by Wagster on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 7:54am.

... is about to see his permanent Republican majority wither away, so yes, he might be moved to action.

"I don't want us to descend into a nation of bloggers." - Steve Jobs

here's a interesting sermon

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Submitted by warren on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 4:52pm.

from down under http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20646437-601,00.html here's another from Denmark http://www.cphpost.dk/get/82118.html every time this stuff comes up from those guys I think of this cox and forkum cartoon http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000170.html its almost funny til I think what if my neice or one of my cousins comes in contact with one of these guys followers and the urge to laugh quickly dies off.on the other hand most of my cousins are country girls who are very good shots with many firearms and a couple are also very handy with a knife.:-)

light infantry...why ride when you can walk,why hide when you can fight.

Danny Rolling finally put to death

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Submitted by warren on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 7:23pm.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,224860,00.html about time.

light infantry...why ride when you can walk,why hide when you can fight.

Bill

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Submitted by maynard on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 9:19pm.

Would you email me please? I would like to ask a favor.

[maynard] [at] [j]ames [m]aynard [g]elinas [dot] [com]

Sure, but I am not at my usual computer tonight

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Submitted by Bill White on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 9:32pm.

Also you can contact me at lunarplatinum [at] aol.com although I confess I don't always check that routinely.

If I forget, remind me tomorrow.

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

do it when you have a free moment

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Submitted by maynard on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 9:38pm.

no hurry. thanks!

Forvm instant messaging

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Submitted by Bill White on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 9:41pm.

or even private messaging would be nice. Avoid the need for e-mail

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

It's available

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Submitted by HankP on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 9:46pm.

WetherMan and I use it all the time. Just needs a vote to be enabled.

I blame it all on the Internet

Nominated and voted: Yes!

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Submitted by maynard on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 9:48pm.

*cough!*

Hi WetherMan -- I can't find my button for private messages

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Submitted by Bill White on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 9:54pm.

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

Let's Discuss and Vote on It

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Submitted by jerseycityjoan on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 9:20am.

If it's available, let's decide if we want it.

Ha! Just voted for my own diary

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Submitted by Bill White on Wed, 10/25/2006 - 9:33pm.

Cool.

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

A Little Smidgen of Artistic Content

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Submitted by Traveller on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 2:16am.

I've been rotating in various images in the Canon Challenges, not that one should do this, otherwise how can you collect votes for voting within the eligible period, blah, blah, blah...votes come and go, I just want to display work as I produce it.

Eventually, if only because this has all been so Roman, I'll put together a full diary and Gallery of this...but for now, a couple of new pieces.

http://www.pbase.com/cslr_challenge/image/69014890

http://www.pbase.com/cslr_challenge/image/69010540

http://www.pbase.com/cslr_challenge/image/68861794

Best Wishes,

Traveller

This makes sense

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Submitted by Joe on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 10:30am.

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/015650.php

The Muslim cabbies refusing to carry alcohol are apparently little more than pawns in a petty power struggle.

But the important question is what kind of organization has a 'fatwa department'? And what does the staff meeting entail? Do they have status updates on previous weeks fatwas, with an expected resolution date? The mind boggles at the combination of the two worst aspects of Muslim and western culture, religous intolerance and meetings.

Will crush dissent for food

There's a thought...

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Submitted by M Aurelius on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 10:35am.

Mixing corporate-speak and muslim fundie notions.

A good comedian could really riff on that for quite some time. Think of a PowerPoint presentation!

The mind boggles indeed.

I am not a pessimist. I am an incompetent optimist.

When the fatwa department is underperforming

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Submitted by Joe on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 10:50am.

They can bring in a consultant and intiate a re-org.

Will crush dissent for food

Yes!

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Submitted by HankP on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 12:52pm.

we need to re-evaluate how fatwas can help contribute to the bottom line!

I blame it all on the Internet

On this date, 34 years ago

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Submitted by Bill White on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 11:31am.

Henry Kissinger said: "Peace is at hand in Vietnam"

October 26, 1972

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

A statement that was essentially correct when it was made.

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Submitted by Ken White on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 12:07pm.

What's your point?

The K Codes explained HERE.

Care to estimate...

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Submitted by Zelig on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 4:22pm.

...how many Asians died at American hands between the time this statement was made and the final fall of Saigon?

By the same token, peace was at hand with the Japanese around December 1942, no?

Me: We! -- Ali

Well, Sure
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Submitted by Harley on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 4:26pm.

If you employ alternate defintions of 'peace', 'at hand', 'Vietnam' and 'is.'

“Two clichés make us laugh but a hundred clichés move us, because we sense dimly that the clichés are talking among themselves, celebrating a reunion." - Umberto Eco

Above and below. Yep but no alternate definition of peace is
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Submitted by Ken White on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 7:21pm.

necessary, you do what you wish with your hands and Viet Nam is still Viet Nam.

As to what Henry said, "at hand" means its on the way -- not that it's there. North VN had agreed to a cease fire; it came in January of '73, US troops effectively left right after that (end of March IIRC) and Pecae of a sort reigned for a while -- enough for Henry and Le Duc Tho to win the Nobel Peace Prize. Can't knock that without knocking Jimmy... :)

Due to NVN attacks in the south, Thieu restarted hostilities in mid '74, leading to the final Nothern attack in 75.

As to the number of Asians killed by the US between October of 72 and April of 75, most of them were killed during Operation Linebacker, the North said 1,318 -- so figure roughly triple that or about 4K -- why do you ask?

Might have been a whole lot more in late 74-early 75 if the US had not abandoned the south.

December 42 was a bad time. WW II was a different war and politicians were a little -- not a lot -- smarter then and didn't say too many stupid things. Point remains that Henry's statement wasn't all that wrong and I still don't know what Bill's point was.

Either of you guys know?

The K Codes explained HERE.

Microsoft Word Help Please!
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Submitted by Harley on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 12:34pm.

Quick question from someone who should know a great deal more about word processing programs than he does.

Is it possible to add an exponent number to another number or word using this software?

As in Run2 -- tho' the 2 should be, you know, tiny and higher. Cuz it's an exponent.

Thanks!

“Two clichés make us laugh but a hundred clichés move us, because we sense dimly that the clichés are talking among themselves, celebrating a reunion." - Umberto Eco

Yes.
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Submitted by M Aurelius on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 12:36pm.

It's possible.

I am not a pessimist. I am an incompetent optimist.

Done!
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Submitted by Harley on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 12:38pm.

Finally figured it out. The good ol' formatting pallette.

“Two clichés make us laugh but a hundred clichés move us, because we sense dimly that the clichés are talking among themselves, celebrating a reunion." - Umberto Eco

I knew...
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Submitted by M Aurelius on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 12:45pm.

...you had it in you!

Cue Rocky I music...

I am not a pessimist. I am an incompetent optimist.

And/or try the Character Map
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Submitted by Jay C on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 12:57pm.

which is, I believe, a standard Windows program: not only superscripts, but all sorts of typographical bizarrie.

?

Could we actually use the character map?
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Submitted by Weyland on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 5:47pm.

Mr Jay C,

Or HankP, or anyone else who would know the answer. Can we actually use the Microsoft char map or a similar utility to post exponential notation, mathematical characters, & the like? I have in mind a diary or two that would involve some of these things . . .

For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise - B. Franklin

You can do most of that stuff in HTML
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Submitted by Chuchundra on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 5:57pm.

X²+Y³=Z

We can do more if they let in some other HTML tags.

Guard, protect and cherish your land, for there is no afterlife for a place that started out as Heaven.

Let's try...
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Submitted by aireachail on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 6:00pm.

Pasted from Word, using Char Map, here are some

Symbols: ? ? ?

Worked in preview,
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Submitted by aireachail on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 6:01pm.

but not on post.

Sure. See:
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Submitted by Ken White on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 6:06pm.

§ © ° ² » ± ß æ ? ¢ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

It'll copy from any Font including Symbols and the various Wingdings into most programs; for some reason on this board, it won't take the Symbol or Wingding, it converts it to Times New Roman.

Play with it and you might get it to do what you want.

The K Codes explained HERE.

I nominate Ken to the tech committee! nt
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Submitted by HankP on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 6:20pm.

I blame it all on the Internet

Psst. You miss the ????; those didn't work...
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Submitted by Ken White on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 7:54pm.

.

The K Codes explained HERE.

How'd you do that?
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Submitted by Jay C on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 9:10pm.

When I tried to paste in a symbol from Char Map, I only got the ?? - Is it a browser thing? What do you use?

(Last symbol really IS a question mark)

I'm using Netscape 8 but I've used it in my Opera 7, 8 and 9 as
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Submitted by Ken White on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 10:46pm.

well as Internet Explorer 6 and 7 with no problems -- it, is as I said, font - particular; I've had no problems with Arial or Times New Roman but it tends to reject most others; thus my line of ??? above... :(

I think it's a site thing, when I used to hit several blog sites, I used it and some wouldn't accept it all. Most did with some peculiarities.

Hope you can get it working okay.

The K Codes explained HERE.

Checking the Char Map
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Submitted by Jay C on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 7:57am.

¶ª?????€?

Nope, not cursing: just seeing if Firefox makes a difference in the weird-font stuff.

You can enter them in manually
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Submitted by Chuchundra on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 7:59am.

Try this page as a reference.

Guard, protect and cherish your land, for there is no afterlife for a place that started out as Heaven.

Thanks: but it doesn't seem to matter
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Submitted by Jay C on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 8:17am.

à ¨ ì å ¥ §

The characters in "normal:, (i.e. Latin) fonts seem to copy OK: it's the non-Latin (Greek, Cyrillic, Arabic, Hebrew) stuff, and a few of the odder symbols that don't seem to pick up. Typographical cultural imperialism!!

PS: Any Arabic scholars out there know what "End of Ayah", "Start of Rub el Hizb" and "Place of Sajdah" are: and why they have their own icon/character?

PPS: I tried to add this to my previous post via "edit", but got a "You are not allowed to access this page" notice instead. Another glitch?

Control+Shift+=
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Submitted by Darth Cuddly on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 6:06pm.

is a shortcut

In the medical community, death is known as Chuck Norris Syndrome.

I think something is wrong with the diary box
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Submitted by maynard on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 2:21pm.

I just posted a new diary containing a partial transcript of the ACLU Strossen / Scalia debate (that I hand transcribed)... but it's not showing in the box. When I checked my account, however, it shows having posted.

Is this intended, or is it some kind of bug?

I don't care who you are
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Submitted by Joe on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 3:07pm.

http://mcsweeneys.net/2006/10/5missildine.html

This is funny.

Will crush dissent for food

Heh...
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Submitted by aireachail on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 4:00pm.

Good find!

By way of thanks, here's another.

(the "Swayze Sack" is my favorite)

Calling our tech-folk
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Submitted by Bill White on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 9:02pm.

I attempted to post a new diary on the Diplomacy game and the website confirms the post but I do not see it.

I have a copy saved in Word and can try again tomorrow yet I am concerned about a possible site glitch.

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

Update on my missing (& duplicate) diary
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Submitted by Bill White on Thu, 10/26/2006 - 9:09pm.

If I click on "my diaries" I see my new diary (twice) but I do not see it on the recent diary list.

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

Should be fixed now
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Submitted by WetherMan on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 8:38am.

nt

"A Haven of Sanity and Reasonable Manners in a General Atmosphere of Insult-Filled Invective"

looks like redstate is hosed
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Submitted by maynard on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:54pm.

http://redstate.com

Getting a drupal db error. Does this mean that RS is dumping scoop?

back online and seems fine
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Submitted by maynard on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:06pm.

but, unfortunately, I am still banned. :(

Obama to the Rescue!!
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Submitted by Harley on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:00pm.

How Obama changed everything. In 10 easy to follow bullet points.

Here!

“Two clichés make us laugh but a hundred clichés move us, because we sense dimly that the clichés are talking among themselves, celebrating a reunion." - Umberto Eco

Obamania!
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Submitted by Harley on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 8:58pm.

Here.

“Two clichés make us laugh but a hundred clichés move us, because we sense dimly that the clichés are talking among themselves, celebrating a reunion." - Umberto Eco

Obama-rama
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Submitted by Bill White on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 10:58pm.

~

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

Obamazing! nt
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Submitted by Harley on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 11:00pm.

“Two clichés make us laugh but a hundred clichés move us, because we sense dimly that the clichés are talking among themselves, celebrating a reunion." - Umberto Eco

Is this Barack-ing?
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Submitted by Bill White on Fri, 10/27/2006 - 11:06pm.

~

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

Obama been Leadin'? -nt-
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Submitted by Jordan on Sat, 10/28/2006 - 10:32am.

.

M Aurelius was probably right.

Heh. You're on a roll this week... :) NT
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Submitted by Ken White on Sat, 10/28/2006 - 10:51am.

The K Codes explained HERE.

Obama been politicking
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Submitted by Bill White on Sat, 10/28/2006 - 12:35pm.

Timmy ain't the only one stickin' with Joe Lieberman.

It increasingly appears that the Democratic stalwarts such as Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Russ Feingold, Barack Obama and even wannabes like Harold Ford Jr. are sticking with Joe as well even if they conceal it and offer a veneer of support to Ned Lamont.

If Joe Lieberman ends up with tipping point control over the US Senate except him to demand concessions from both parties.

I might go so far as to say that if there are 50 Democratic Senators, 49 GOP Senators and Joe Lieberman (plus Dick Cheney for the tie break) Joe Lieberman may become the most powerful man in America for the next two years. Even more so that George Bush as Dubya will be a lame duck.

if Joe is smart (jury out on that) he can play both sides.

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

The Metaphor. . .
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Submitted by M Scott Eiland on Sat, 10/28/2006 - 5:11pm.

. . .of a mighty oak tree being struck by lightning--revealing that the tree had long ago rotted at the core and that its majesty had been a mere illusion--comes to mind as I watch Oregon State--a team that had up to now gone a lackluster 4-3 that included a 42-14 stomping at the hands of Boise State--reduce the mighty USC Trojans to a quivering mess in the first three quarters of today's game. Even a theoretical miracle comeback would not salvage the reputation of this Trojans team--they are eliminated from the hunt for the BCS championship as of this moment. . .and there is a local radio guy here in the Portland area who will be looking like the cat who ate the canary come Monday afternoon.

The universe may well have been created without a point--that doesn't imply that we can't give it one.

Coup de Grace
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Submitted by M Scott Eiland on Sat, 10/28/2006 - 6:17pm.

Oregon State 33, USC 31.

USC played well enough in the final quarter to probably preserve a spot in the top 10, but the dynasty is officially dead and buried.

The universe may well have been created without a point--that doesn't imply that we can't give it one.

Wait til the sanctions hit
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Submitted by Trickster on Sat, 10/28/2006 - 6:21pm.

That Bush stuff stinks to high heavens. I don't see 'em getting off scott-free on this one.

A Legend Leaves us
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Submitted by jackson mead on Sat, 10/28/2006 - 9:36pm.

Red Auerbach dies at 89

Red drafted the first black NBA player in 1950, fielded the first black starting five in the NBA and hired the first black coach, Bill Russell. Along the line he traded stars for the draft rights to Russell, nobodies so he could draft Larry Bird, won over 900 games and 8 titles a coach and 8 more as an executive. He was funny, sarcastic, brilliant, blunt, competitive and a basketball genius. He has a staue of him sitting on a bench at Fanueil Hall in Boston that is a big tourist attraction. His victory cigar is one of the enduring celebrations in American sport.

Thanks Red.

R.I.P.

I'm trying to make the best out of a bad situation. I don't need to hear crap from a bunch of hippie freaks living in denial! Screw you guys, I'm going home!

Please Please Please
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Submitted by Harley on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 8:05pm.

I don't want to be talking about this a week from Wednesday.

“Two clichés make us laugh but a hundred clichés move us, because we sense dimly that the clichés are talking among themselves, celebrating a reunion." - Umberto Eco

I really, really believe that righties will quietly accept
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Submitted by jackson mead on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 8:10pm.

the results no matter what they are. Lefties? I'm not so sure. In either case? I agree, let's hope it is clean and clear.

I'm trying to make the best out of a bad situation. I don't need to hear crap from a bunch of hippie freaks living in denial! Screw you guys, I'm going home!

I disagree.
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Submitted by Kimmitt on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 8:40pm.

The Washington Governor's Race strongly speaks against your hypothesis.

Part of the point, I think, is to devalue the system for counting votes, in order to increase the possibility for monkey-wrenching Democratic victories either in the courts or in the post-election recounting.

"In the very long run, we are all dead." -- John Maynard Keynes, 1st Baron Keynes

I really, really believe that neither political
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Submitted by Bill White on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:21pm.

party is morally superior to the other. As long as you believe otherwise, actual discussion will be difficult.

Besides there are stories out there that George W. Bush intends a highly confrontational no compromise political stance if the GOP loses one or another house of Congress.

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

Jeepers, I certainly hope so. nt
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Submitted by jackson mead on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:23pm.

xxx

I'm trying to make the best out of a bad situation. I don't need to hear crap from a bunch of hippie freaks living in denial! Screw you guys, I'm going home!

See, obscure proprietary software is so much better!
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Submitted by Username on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:46pm.

2 + 2 = Republican!

Any kuro5hin veterans here?
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Submitted by Bill White on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:19pm.

turmeric relieves arthritis

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

haha
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Submitted by WetherMan on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:23pm.

turmeric was one of my favorite personalities.

K5 is no longer the place it once was of course. I wonder where he spends his time now.

"A Haven of Sanity and Reasonable Manners in a General Atmosphere of Insult-Filled Invective"

If
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Submitted by Bill White on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:31pm.

turmeric was one of your favorite personalities, couldn't you simply go off the multiple personality medication and bring him back?

/snark

As for K5, I agree completely.

The proper balance between defense and welfare are the tectonic plates that lie beneath our political discourse.

Out of curiosity ...
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Submitted by Livia on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 3:55pm.

... what happened to Timmy's diary on his mistaken belief that diaries were being deleted?

Did he delete it? Did someone else delete it? What happened?

Yeah where'd Timmy's diary go?
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Submitted by Jordan on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 8:47pm.

What the dilly?

M Aurelius was probably right.

Happy Halloween
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Submitted by Blue Neponset on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 8:20pm.

I can't beleive we got so many trick or treaters. I had to make a candy run because we ran out half way through peak trick or treat time.

Best costume I saw: Tie between a three year old chicken little and a six year old princess.

Worst costume I saw: some 14 y/o kids in street clothes. Damn kids...there ought to be a law about that.

What was Halloween like in your neck of the USA/Canada?

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Gated Community, two huge dogs, kids not welcome :)
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Submitted by jackson mead on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 8:31pm.

xxx

I'm trying to make the best out of a bad situation. I don't need to hear crap from a bunch of hippie freaks living in denial! Screw you guys, I'm going home!

A gated community?!
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Submitted by Elagabalus on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 9:27pm.

An island's not good enough for you? You have to have a gated community as well?

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Hey, remember, Kimmitt and Tomsyl are only
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Submitted by jackson mead on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 9:31pm.

a short flight away. If that were true for you, you'd live in a gated community as well.

Gotta keep the riff raff out.

I'm trying to make the best out of a bad situation. I don't need to hear crap from a bunch of hippie freaks living in denial! Screw you guys, I'm going home!

A lot of kids this year
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Submitted by Chuchundra on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 9:18pm.

But I still have a lot of candy left. The woman of the house went and bought more after I told her we had enough. I'll be taking it to work on Thursday.

Nothing really unique this year. Your usual collection of superheroes and princesses, although I didn't get to spend all that much time observing the costumes as I had to keep one eye out for the cat to make sure she didn't bolt out into the night.

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Halloween question. For 40 years, I've been asking my
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Submitted by Ken White on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 10:07pm.

wife to buy nothing but bags of little Hershey's, Peanut Butter Cups and Milky Ways (package 1) -- stuff we'll eat if there aren't a huge number of kids.

For all that period, including this year, to humor me she routinely has bought one or two bags like that, teeny ones, the smallest she can find -- and four of five really huge bags of Zzoopy Taffy, Ssliag Ssuckers, Globber Mintz and other stuff (package 2) no one ever heard of -- or wants. Thus we always end up with no package 1 stuff left over and half a ton of package 2 stuff.

Anyone need any Zzoopy Taffy? Snack size bags of glodfish? Free shipping...

My question is... Why?

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