Have House Democrats finally grown a spine?

Submitted by Gabriel on Sun, 02/17/2008 - 4:02pm. Tags:

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It seems House Democrats decided to ignore the lying from the Bush administration and its allies about how the expiration of the Protect America Act means that terrorists win and stood strong for once.

Will this last? I have my doubts. But it is a step forward.
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Maybe (#80192)

by stillnotking on Mon, 02/18/2008 - 10:25am

But when I see a pig fly past my window, I'm gonna assume someone threw it until proven otherwise.

The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.

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You know, I can feel for the telecoms (#80119)

by dionysus on Sun, 02/17/2008 - 10:39pm

I dunno what I would do if the office of the president was telling me to do something and it's ok, oh and by the way they have a record for vindictiveness and we have a few billion of business with the feds.

At the same time, for precedent's sake, they need to take a fine. Sucks that they were given a trick question.

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re: precedent's sake (#80370)

by Darth Cuddly on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 4:46pm

I see two problems. First, the trick question you acknowledge. The idea that the federal govt is going to fine an institution for doing the federal govt's bidding strikes me as problematic. Second, I presume that the victims of the telecoms are also the customers who will ultimately be the ones paying the fine in one way or the other.

It's not only redundant, it's also repetitive

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Whoa, whoa, whoa (#80373)

by stillnotking on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 5:00pm

"The federal government" is divided into three parts, and not in the Trinitarian sense. The judicial branch most certainly should fine a corporation for contravening the laws of the legislative branch, whether or not the executive branch twisted said corporation's arm.

Of course, if you really feel strongly that the government is the criminal party here, we could always substitute it as a defendant. (Another advantage of the separation of powers is that the government can hear cases against itself.) That amendment was proposed as well, but whaddya know, it was shot down and every single Senate Republican voted against it.

The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.

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Not really. (#80110)

by Zelig on Sun, 02/17/2008 - 9:26pm

However, at some point, even invertebrate democrats become offended by the overt fascism as practiced by the White House.

It will be interesting to see what BushCo will do next to protect the telecoms from the impending lawsuits. Perhaps they will simply issue a Nixon-like pardon for the "good" of the country.

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That seems likely. -nt- (#80143)

by Punditus Maximus on Mon, 02/18/2008 - 1:52am

It's impossible to debate if people simply hold beliefs that have no grounding in reality.

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I wouldn't bet on it lasting long, (#80104)

by Username on Sun, 02/17/2008 - 8:05pm

but good news nonetheless!

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