The Sutras of Abu Ghraib: An Interview With Conscientious Objector Aidan Delgado


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The topic below was originally posted in my blog, the Intrepid Liberal Journal, as well as the Out of Iraq Bloggers Caucus, the Independent Bloggers Alliance, the Wild Wild Left and Worldwide Sawdust.

In 2001, Aidan Delgado was twenty-years old and in need of a life anchor. Delgado had primarily grown up abroad in far away places such as Cairo, Egypt, Thailand and Senegal due to his father's career as a diplomat. While attending college in Florida, Delgado felt culturally out of place and adrift. Having led an "ivory tower" existence of academia and privilege, Delgado opted to join the United States Army Reserves for a different perspective.

By sheer coincidence he signed his enlistment contract on September 11th. Those closest to him questioned the wisdom of Delgado's choice. The terrorist attacks convinced Delgado he made the correct decision as the country underwent a surge of patriotic feeling and rallying to the flag. At the time he was proud of having decided to join the United States Reserves before September 11th. Delgado didn't know it yet but the next three years of his life would transform his entire being.

To calm his nerves prior to reporting for basic training at the end of October 2001, Delgado read about Buddhism. He concluded that Buddhism was like "coming home" and suited his outlook on life even as he prepared for war. Initially, Delgado embraced the Samurai ethos that blended Buddhism with the warrior spirit to justify his participation.

He was trained as a mechanic and assigned to the 320th Military Police Company in 2003. Initially, Delgado served in Nasiriya, the Southern Part of Iraq for several months before being redeployed with his unit to Abu Ghraib. Since Delgado knew Arabic from his adolescent years in Cairo, he was frequently utilized as a translator on missions. On these missions he witnessed horrific abuse committed by Americans against Iraq's civilian population. He told Bob Herbert of the New York Times in 2005 that,

"Guys in my unit, particularly the younger guys, would drive by in their Humvee and shatter bottles over the heads of Iraqi civilians passing by. They'd keep a bunch of empty Coke bottles in the Humvee to break over people's heads."

That sort of gratuitous violence was a harbinger of things to come. During this period in 2003, Delgado experienced an internal crisis. The warrior ethos was not compatible with his sensibilities as a Buddhist and he opted to apply for an honorable discharge as a conscientious objector.

The army tried to persuade Delgado to apply for non-combatant status instead and still complete his duties as a mechanic. It would've been the path of least resistance and Delgado rejected it. As far as Delgado was concerned, applying, as a non-combatant was a half-measure and he wanted to make a moral statement.

The path Delgado chose was a long tough road of bureaucratic struggle, taunts, bullying and peer abuse. The army hoped to provoke Delgado away from pacifism, make him feel ostracized and humiliated. Many considered Delgado a coward and a traitor as he continued to fulfill his duties while the application process went forward.

Delgado's application for conscientious objector status had not been resolved when his unit was redeployed to Abu Ghraib in November 2003. Shortly after he arrived, a prison riot against the miserable conditions there resulted in a fatal shooting of four detainees who threw stones. Delgado told Bob Herbert how he confronted a sergeant who claimed to have fired on the detainees:

"I asked him if he was proud that he had shot unarmed men behind barbed wire for throwing stones. He didn't get mad at all. He was, like, 'Well, I saw them bloody my buddy's nose, so I knelt down. I said a prayer. I stood up, and I shot them down.'"

When Delgado initially arrived at Abu Ghraib he assumed most of the detainees were hardened insurgents and terrorists. He later learned while working as a radio operator for the Abu Ghraib headquarters brigade that most detainees were either petty civilian criminals or completely innocent. Ultimately, Delgado concluded that regardless of why they were there, American behavior could not be excused.

Delgado's unit was dismissed after completed its duty in March 2004. He received an honorable discharge after returning to America in April 2004. Currently, he's an antiwar activist as a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War and the Buddhist Peace Alliance. Delgado captured his spiritual journey and experience in Iraq with his recently published memoir, The Sutras of Abu Ghraib: Notes From A Conscientious Objector In Iraq (Beacon Press)

It's not fully possible to grasp what soldiers like Delgado went through and witnessed. What does it mean to read that serving in Abu Ghraib is hell or living through mortar attacks is scary? Is it really possible for mere words to convey how soldiers such as Delgado are torn between loyalty to the uniform they wear and their humanity? How can one truly understand without having lived in the shoes of someone like Delgado himself?

Those of us who haven't been in that position can't truly understand. Nevertheless, Delgado skillfully puts the reader in the front row of his year in Iraq, the friends and antagonists he interacted with, the near death experiences he endured and the torturous battle waged within his soul about right and wrong.

Delgado agreed to a podcast interview with me over the telephone about his book, experiences inside Iraq and Abu Ghraib in particular. We also discussed how racism towards Arabs and the Muslim world helped facilitate the crimes committed against Iraqis and his spiritual journey as a Buddhist and anti-war pacifist. Our conversation is approximately fifty-six minutes and took place on Sunday, November 18th.

This interview can also be accessed for free by searching for "Intrepid Liberal Journal" at the Itunes Store. Another option is to access the Odeo media player on my blog.

Please note that Aidan Delgado only had access to a cell phone for this interview. The sound quality is quite good most of the time and the passion of his convictions comes through. Also, I made a couple errors during the podcast I would like to correct. In introducing Aidan I referred to his unit as the 320th Military Police "Academy" instead of "Company." I also listed Kuwait among the countries Aidan lived in while growing up when in fact he only visited there.
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Bottled rage (#67471)
by Irving

"Guys in my unit, particularly the younger guys, would drive by in their Humvee and shatter bottles over the heads of Iraqi civilians passing by. They'd keep a bunch of empty Coke bottles in the Humvee to break over people's heads."

Given that in real life coke bottles don't shatter as easily as they do in the movies...is the individual suggesting that "younger soldiers" were gratuitously killing Iraqi civilians with blunt force trama? For fun?

An interesting conversation (#67462)
by Micky Love

An interesting conversation. I don't think Aidan is correct regarding John McCain. After being beaten over a period of days, McCain agreed to cooperate with the Vietnamese in exchange for being taken to the hospital for medical treatment. According to Hanoi press, McCain gave

"specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place. There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner."

http://www.usvetdsp.com/smith_mc.htm

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Nothing resembles virtue more than a great crime. Saint-Just

Do you ever feel gullible? (#67518)
by tomsyl

Maybe like you've been had?

Oh, never mind.

Hey, thanks for a new, highly credible site! I'm sure you buy into their depiction of John "Not So Swift Vet" Kerry as well as John McCain.

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

your own digging (#67579)
by Micky Love

Kerry has denied those allegations. Much of the information in that my comment came from McCain himself in interviews with other, presumably more respectable, news outfits. If this really is news to you, you should do your own digging.

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Nothing resembles virtue more than a great crime. Saint-Just

Meaning you have a credible source for those McCain claims? (#67587)
by tomsyl

Please post it then. The fact that your only cite was to something I've never heard of, that looks like it was printed on my old grade school mimeograph machine, and which had a strong scent of personal score-settling to it, somehow made me think that was the best you've got as far as sources.

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

an attractive site (#67625)
by Micky Love

Are you serious? Surely you knew that McCain was imprisoned in Hanoi. You've really never heard of his anti-war broadcasts and so on? I suggest you look around, and you can probably find something to satisfy your curiosity if you use google. If you need an attractive site to convince you, there should be something somewhere to your liking.

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Nothing resembles virtue more than a great crime. Saint-Just

The word is "credible" site, and I call BS on your link (#67627)
by tomsyl

I knew little about McCain's wartime history, just that it was heroic. So I looked up the details on Wikipedia, which confirms that the material you linked to is a vile slander. Will you now admit that the claims you put forward are complete BS?

Why is defaming a person who most Americans regard as a war hero so important to you?

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

I had reached mine (#67628)
by Micky Love

Have a look at this site which gives us a long and positive profile on McCain:

"Some who were not there, (POW Camps) I guess, would say, 'You guys are very intolerant of those people.' But unless you've been there in our shoes, it's probably very difficult to comprehend the code we were trying to uphold under very difficult circumstances. And our Code of Conduct is very clear about what we can and what we should and should not do. That's not to say that we didn't fail. God knows, we all were defeated by the physical and mental torture, and we gave the Communists things we all wish we had not."

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1999-03-25/news/is-john-mccain-a-war-hero...

It's positive coverage that includes some discussion of the charges that you find so offensive. If you read carefully, you will notice that a lot of bad things are said of the Sampley character, and I don't doubt that he is a nasty piece of work. But, the substance of his charges is not addressed, and not denied. Not by McCain, his spokesman, or the reporter. The question of the exact nature of McCain's cooperation with his torturers is left unanswered. They dance around the issue. This is different from Kerry's reaction to the Swift Boat attacks.

Defaming McCain is not important to me. I am reacting to Aidan's claim that beatings and torture had no effect on McCain. Clearly they did. In the Wikipedia, McCain is quoted "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."

This is why people find torture so abhorrent, because it destroys a man's dignity and self respect. It's not slanderous to point this out.

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Nothing resembles virtue more than a great crime. Saint-Just

You took a guy with a chip on his shoulder and gave him cred (#67644)
by tomsyl

ibility via a cite to a semi-literate garbage site dedicated to attacking MCCain, when there's an enormous body of mainstream reporting on him. Such selectively negative cherrypicking is what indicated to me a motive on your part to defame an American hero. Else why didn't you cite Wikipedia or another mainsteam source with credibility to tell your story?

I know Orson Swindle personally, and he deserves great respect for his wartime experiences. But you should have looked up his history and politics before relying on him as another source for attacking McCain.

I'm not a McCain fan, and it's very unlikely I would ever vote for him. But I see through this charade as if it where made of saran wrap.

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

A true hero? No! (#67659)
by Micky Love

Actually, sources tying McCain to the propaganda broadcasts are extremely rare, and only seem to occur in the more sensational websites, not in the corporate press or Wikipedia. That's how I arrived at this Sampley page. There were many charges against McCain and Kerry, that they are Vietnamese agents and so on, which I ignore. I think the charges that I did quote are plausible and likely to be true. I can't prove them, but we have on the one hand McCain stating that he was broken, and on the other we have an implacable Vietnamese enemy with the means, motive and opportunity to exploit a compliant prisoner in their custody.

My interest in this issue comes out of my interest in the aerial bombing of civilians. I don't have any grudge against McCain, and it's not anything he did in prison I would criticize. I question the morality of his actions before his capture. And I wouldn't call him a hero either. A true hero to my mind is transformed by the hardships he suffers. McCain's recent pronouncements on bombing Iran show he never gained the wisdom that fate offered.

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Nothing resembles virtue more than a great crime. Saint-Just

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