Final Forvm Nominations Nag & Open Thread


This is your final reminder to go to the Nominations thread and nominate three new moderators. Nominations close tonight at midnight. We'll tally nominations & send them to HankP, who'll set up on a them nifty radio button vote thangs.

Do not post nominations on this thread.

Elections will take place over this weekend. Go. Destiny calls. Godspeed.

Oh and use this as an open thread.
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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH

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The bet continues... (#104949)
by Punditus Maximus

BLS says June's at 5.5. Those six months will be done before we even hit the election.

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It's impossible to debate if people simply hold beliefs that have no grounding in reality.

Ooops (#104809)
by M Scott Eiland

Glass houses, Mr. Olbermann. Several of them, apparently.

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When did Olbermann announce his candidacy? (#104818)
by Spartacvs

I like the new policy of mods posting a photo of themselves as a sig. Can't wait to see the other two.

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GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.

Frank Rich tears McCain a new one (#104241)
by Spartacvs

Fiscal flatulence

Highlights:

“In a time of war,” Mr. McCain said last week, “the commander in chief doesn’t get a learning curve.” Fair enough, but he imparted this wisdom in a speech that was almost a year behind Mr. Obama in recognizing Afghanistan as the central front in the war against Al Qaeda. Given that it took the deadliest Taliban suicide bombing in Kabul since 9/11 to get Mr. McCain’s attention, you have to wonder if even General Custer’s learning curve was faster than his.

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In February Mr. McCain said he would balance the federal budget by the end of his first term even while extending the gargantuan Bush tax cuts. In April he said he’d accomplish this by the end of his second term. In July he’s again saying he’ll do it in his first term. Why not just say he’ll do it on Inauguration Day? It really doesn’t matter since he’s never supplied real numbers that would give this promise even a patina of credibility.

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Given that Mr. McCain’s sole private-sector job was a fleeting stint in public relations at his father-in-law’s beer distributorship, he comes by his economic ignorance honestly. But there’s no A team aboard the Straight Talk Express to fill him in. His campaign economist, the former Bush adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin, could be found in the June 5 issue of American Banker suggesting even at that late date that we still don’t know “the depth of the housing crisis” and proposing that “monitoring is the right thing to do in these circumstances.”

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GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.

Hmmm (#104127)
by M Scott Eiland

When I was fourteen, I had a bit of a crush on Chris Evert. I suspect that the fourteen year old me would have been rather startled at the apparent development of the now rather older Ms. Evert having become the latest development in performance enhancers for over-the-hill athletes.*

Maybe Michelle Wie should see if Martina Navratilova is available for power dating/training.**

*--in all seriousness, Greg Norman is a heck of a guy and I wish him and Chris Evert all the happiness in the world. . .but if he wins tomorrow he'd better keep an eye on her, lest legions of forty-something athletes seek to woo her away from him.

**--hey, no tsk-tsking at me. Michelle's 18 now and fair game for that sort of humor--it's a lot friendlier than the abuse she usually gets.

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Well, It's Official (#104187)
by M Scott Eiland

Greg Norman is playing like he was fifteen years ago. Unfortunately, that meant a not-quite storybook ending today..

Still, it's hard to feel sorry for the man--he finished tied for third (odds are that Tiger Woods will be thrilled if he can still finish third at the British Open when he's fifty-three: if not, the record books of golf will be a one-man show by then), and is clearly enjoying his new wife, his huge pile of money, and his life in general. I hope he keeps stopping in now and again, just to let us know how he's doing. :-)

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Harrington deserved it. (#104189)
by Macallan

The strong finish, including the incredible 2nd shot on 17 to set up the eagle, cemented that he deserved to win.

It was pretty painful watching Norman, even at 53, cough another one up like he did to Faldo at Augusta, but at least this time he had 99% of field struggling with par to keep him company. He was playing way too aggresively on a day that even par makes him a legend and erases lots of bad memories.

He's always gracious, but you know when he thinks about later in private, he's gonna break something.

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“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”

Oh, Definitely (#104191)
by M Scott Eiland

Assuming everyone else shot the same, Norman would have had to hang another 70 to win outright--a tall order for a fifty-three year old player who hadn't played a major in three years. Norman's performance today was disappointing, but there's no gainsaying the proposition that Harrington won the tournament rather than anyone else losing it.

If he ever did decide to come back and play semi-regularly, he has a good support system:

His new wife, Chris Evert, followed him for the entire 18 holes. You could see her in the crowds -- black leather jacket and light blue pants. She held one of those goofy-looking periscope boxes to see over the crowds. To finish third (along with a $500,000-plus paycheck) was like a bonus piece of wedding cake.

When he was done with the round, Norman had warmly congratulated Harrington, stopped to kiss Harrington's wife on the cheek, and then strode up the hill toward the clubhouse. Waiting there was Evert. They kissed, exchanged a few words, and then walked arm in arm to the scorer's trailer.

I asked Evert what she told Norman.

"I told him he's a champion," she said.

Spousal loyalty aside, there are few higher compliments that can be paid to a professional athlete than to be called a champion by Chris Evert.

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Someone cracked... (#104192)
by Macallan

...yesterday that Evert, "Had a better record on grass."

Ouch.

Ironically, he'd have probably won if he'd been more like Evert, the cold tactician, rather than trying to overpower the course ala Martina. Even at 53, he has the talent, imagination, and touch to have shot a 70 today. I think what betrayed him, wasn't his age, but his long break from competitive golf and forgetting how to grid when your nerves are sapping your energy.

Still, to even be in the hunt at the turn like that? Pretty amazing.

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“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”

The Scary Thing About That Joke. . . (#104198)
by M Scott Eiland

. . .is that it's pretty much literally true, and not a very telling dig against Norman--Evert won five Grand Slam singles titles on grass courts* (three at Wimbledon, two at the Australian Open), including a win against Navratilova in the Australian Open in 1982 when Martina had entered her prime years and Chris was not once she once was. She was legendary on clay, but most golfers would be proud to have five majors of any variety under their belts.

*--not to mention the ten times she was runner-up in Grand Slam singles finals played on grass.

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Ssssssssssssssssssssss (#103975)
by M Scott Eiland
Wackiness follows. (#103989)
by Jordan

I dunno. Sounds to me like a lot of wounded self-importance leaking out of somebody's column. Or is it henhouse jealousy? -- the frequencies are so close they're hard to distinguish.

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH

Took a long Friday lunch today (#103875)
by aireachail

and went to see The Dark Knight.

For those of you who haven't seen it, and for whom the experience awaits...

I'm jealous.

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Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham

That good? I thought Batman Begins (#103952)
by Jordan

was genius. Best of the "modern" superhero flicks to date, although The Incredibles was pretty damn good in its way.

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH

Yep; that good. (#103961)
by aireachail

If you liked Batman Begins, this one will blow you away.

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Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham

sky high expectations are the worst for movie-viewing (#103964)
by catchy

just tell him it was better than getting a hip replaced or reviewing (nature-preferring) peers.

You're right. (#103966)
by aireachail

No more on this from me.

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Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham

The Dark Knight review, minor spoilers. (#104150)
by Jordan

The movie is a giant, lurching mess, and it's pretty obvious the Nolans let the project fall into the clutches of studio nitwits. When credits rolled at the end, they were led off by an absurdly long list of 10-12 producers & executive producers, and it's pretty obvious this was a movie made by executive clusterfork.

The intent seemed to be giving equal screen time to a giant cast of name actors and very expensive but pointless SFx, things like story and plausibility be damned. The result feels like two unfinished movies, or one unfinished movie smashed together with an unfinished short film about Two-Face. There are tons of poorly motivated scenes that should have been cut, so that other poorly motivated scenes could be given enough screen time to actually make sense.

What made Batman Begins so good was the combination of comic-book fantasy with lean, nervy psychological realism as Bruce Wayne's coming-of-age story is retold through the lens of a meditation on the meaning of fear. Every scene in the film does something to advance Wayne's lifelong attempt to come to grips with terror...including most of the fight and action sequences. Effing brilliant.

Dark Knight has hints of that approach, with a difference. Bruce Wayne is no longer a focal character at all. Instead, The Joker's psychodrama takes center stage, while off as a sideshow you have the madness of Two-Face. The entire story's wrapped around the idea of making choices, facing dilemmas. The Joker loves confronting people with the deep-seated contradictions in their own beliefs, and forcing them to choose the lesser of two evils -- Two-Face of course comes to believe somewhat contradictorily that chance is the only moral choice we get. His story gets short shrift, so the theme is never really developed. There's also some half-ass allegory about terrorism, mass hysteria, and security state politics which culminates in one of the most morally bankrupt "the people can't handle the truth" movie finales I can remember.

Still, interesting, compelling stuff. But unfortunately, the film is so larded with Macguffins and hard-to-believe storylines that lead nowhere (Every gang in Gotham turns over all their cash to some Hong Kong accountant? Really? How are they keeping themselves in wingtips in the meantime? Answer: doesn't matter, it's all just an excuse for Batman to head to Hong Kong for a largely pointless light show. And the mystery of how the Joker manages to find a neverending string of lackeys in clown masks despite the fact he a) has no money to pay them and b) kills them off to a man after each operation anyhow, would've been worth delving into.) that the central storylines get no more than 40 minutes of screen time. You don't even realize the movie has a "moral dilemma" theme until well over halfway through, and all of that early screen time is basically lost in a morass of "why the hell did that happen? Just because, now shut up & pass the popcorn."

Heath Ledger is marvelous, a superb actor playing a demented role and making it look like a hell of a lot of fun. To recreate a character so completely that people forget it was played by Jack Nicholson just 10 years ago is damned impressive. I hope his wife and daughter make a screaming fortune off the film. Otherwise, there's not much to see here, just a film that's about 90 minutes too long and utterly forgettable.

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH

HA! (#104175)
by aireachail

That clinches it.

I'm never going to a movie with you, even if you promise to buy the giant-size box of Junior Mints.

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Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham

Dang. Was I in the running before? (#104176)
by Jordan

I just know this can't have anything to do with my rants about Ratatouille and the Lord of the Rings films. :)

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH

WHOA!!! (#103757)
by Macallan

How the hell did my nick get on the ballot?

Please take it off.

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Please post a comment in the voting diary (#103768)
by HankP

I can't edit the poll, I'd have to redo it.

This is what you get for not paying attention in class :)

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