Perhaps both?
What kind of psycopath-morons has the Tea Party infested GOP put in Congress, that they would do something that will cost both money and lives, supposedly to save a few bucks? Seriously, these people are sick.
Perhaps both?
What kind of psycopath-morons has the Tea Party infested GOP put in Congress, that they would do something that will cost both money and lives, supposedly to save a few bucks? Seriously, these people are sick.
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Right
(#284839)Because there can be no research whatsoever without the existence of a federal agency. But that said, dumb move.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particula
Not research that cannot be monetized.
(#284843)The private sector has no incentive to research simple procedures, like the one highlighted to prevent infections. The research is costly and the results would provide no revenue, since they cannot be patented.
I am not a pessimist. I am an incompetent optimist.
It's not just monetization
(#284846)it's where a group should be located in government to report and manage issues affecting all hospitals in all states. That pretty clearly points to the federal level.
I swear these guys want to go back to the Articles of Confederation.
I blame it all on the Internet
I wish that were true.
(#284853)It's not though. The founders were in may ways more liberal than these guys. In some ways, a lot more liberal. I mean, they left out God and Christ out of the Constitution, quite deliberately.
I am not a pessimist. I am an incompetent optimist.
The point is that...
(#284867)...federal funding for research can be provided without the setting up of an entire federal agency.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particula
Kinda depends
(#284906)Is there a de facto separation of leadership at the very top and lack of effectiveness/efficiency just due to another "agency" having the lead?
"I’m to believe that North Korea is so dangerously unhinged that they would attack without warning – yet so meek and easily cowed that they will sit quietly and not retaliate when we start bombing them."
Major Kong
OK, Fine
(#284908)In that case, the proper response is not to gut the agency in question, but to consolidate its activities with those of a related agency and then save some of the administrative overhead costs.
But that's not what they are proposing. So that might be your point, but it's not the point of your party.
I am not a pessimist. I am an incompetent optimist.
Targeted research? Based on policy? Evaluating health
(#284922)systems across the country according to a predictable, fair set of standards?
Yes, you do need an agency to handle that kind of project.
M Aurelius was probably right.
Off the point..
(#284923)The point is ...federal funding for research can be provided without the setting up of an entire federal agency.
While you're right on general principles with this statement, in this particular case, there seems to be NO "private"/non-governmental body carrying on this branch of research. I suppose, if such a body* existed, there might be a rational argument made for funding its studies, in preference to maintaining a government agency to accomplish the same goals (btw, I don't think the argument would necessarily be valid - outside of the mindless knee-jerk opposition to "government" so prevalent with Republicans these days - but it could be made). Especially when one is talking about practices and standards that affect the nation's hospital system as a whole.
But, since there isn't, AFACBD, any non-governmental entity doing this, it seems that keeping the AHRQ going should be debated on its own merits: and, for me, closing down agencies like AHRQ on BS "budgetary" grounds is both stupid AND evil.
*Maybe something called the Foundation for Infectious Disease Detection, Limitation and Eradication?
Your description is accurate
(#284841)"In all, the Republican plan would extend tax cuts for 2.7 million affluent families while allowing tax breaks to expire for 13 million on the bottom of the income spectrum, tax analysts say."
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/24/12928864-whether-to-ext...
"Something I think most liberals don't understand is exactly how stupid many conservative leaders are." - Matt Yglesias
I think at this point
(#284842)that the willful ignorance of the GOP has crossed the line into evil.
"I've been on food stamps and welfare. Anybody help me out? No!" Craig T. Nelson (6/2/2009)
Mostly stupid, but nothing new
(#284845)They have a history of cutting funds for any program that reports information they don't want to hear. Like cutting funding for the census bureau and eliminating the economic census. This ensures that lots of economic policy will be made without knowing the current state of the economy. My guess is that they do this so that they can legislate faith based economics and never have to worry about anyone pointing to facts that show their faith based economics are wrong.
As I recall they tried something similar a few years ago in California by trying to forbid the state government from reporting the racial categories of US citizens in various reports. That way they can claim there's no racism and there's no facts to oppose their beliefs.
They truly do want to create their own reality.
EDIT: Oops, forgot the Flake Amendment, which zeroes out spending on political science at the NSF.
I blame it all on the Internet
Now this is stupid with a whole lot of evil mixed in
(#284915)H.R. 4078 would impose a moratorium on the issuance of any and all new regulations for the foreseeable future
And this from a former Republican congressman. Text of the bill here. (pdf)
I blame it all on the Internet
Inclined to Go with Stupid and Evil
(#284927)But would like to know more about the AHRQ's effectiveness.
The linked article offers some data (~58% fewer intensive care infections 2001-09 after the AHRQ promulgated new injection procedure guidelines), but not much else and no comment from the Congressman who authored the cut.
Where's the data?