Algore Updates "An Inconvenient Truth"

cites firming link between anthro-, anthropomor-, eh human-caused climate change and severe weather events, decries the opposition's disinformation campaign, fails to note girth in own eye.

 

AG: Right, you hear a lot of people giving advice on how to talk about climate science—how you need to dress differently or stand on your head and deliver the message in rhyme. And I respect all that, and I hope a lot of people will present the message in their own way. But my message is about presenting the reality. I have faith in the United States and our ability to make good decisions based on the facts. And I believe Mother Nature is speaking very loudly and clearly. We’ve had ten disasters in the United States this year alone costing more than $1 billion and which were climate-related. It’s only a matter of time before reality sinks in, and we need both parties involved. And the only way to get the right answer is to understand the question.

Faith? The last redoubt of the true believer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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And Here's Perry's Gallileo

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The global warming theory left him out in the cold.

 

Dr. Ivar Giaever, a former professor with Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and the 1973 winner of the Nobel Prize in physics, abruptly announced his resignation Tuesday, Sept. 13, from the premier physics society in disgust over its officially stated policy that "global warming is occurring."

 

The official position of the American Physical Society (APS) supports the theory that man's actions have inexorably led to the warming of the planet, through increased emissions of carbon dioxide.

 

Giaever does not agree -- and put it bluntly and succinctly in the subject line of his email, reprinted at Climate Depot, a website devoted to debunking the theory of man-made climate change.

 

"I resign from APS," Giaever wrote.

 

Giaever was cooled to the statement on warming theory by a line claiming that "the evidence is incontrovertible."

 

Props to Fox News for working in the "scientist cool to warming theory" pun. Twice.

 

He's a physicist. -nt-

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"Hell is truth seen too late." --Thomas Hobbes

He's also 82 years old

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retired and has not done any meaningful research in any area in quite a while. I am sad to say it but most 82 year olds that I know are not quite up to speed mentally and I think that is the case with him as well.

You've missed the point. He doesn't have faith.

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It's a classic manipulation tactic. Give us a 'good' reputation to live 'up' to. He's trying to set himself up as the parent we don't want to disappoint. I say he's the parent we should want to put in a home and forget about.

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I have no faith in Al Gore.

Oh no. Not again.

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mmghosh's picture

[url=http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/14/cloudburst-cripples-karachi.html]Poor guys.[/url]

Coastal Pacific to Rise 4.6 Feet by 2100?

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Yikes.

 

In California, our coastline is one of our most valuable natural resources,” said study author Philip King, associate professor of economics at UCSF. “More than 80 percent of Californians live in coastal communities, and California’s beaches support local economies and critical natural species.”

 

The economic loss in Malibu could top $500 million by the end of the century, according to the study, which was paid for by the Department of Boating and Waterways.

 

Parts of Zuma Beach, including Broad Beach’s “Millionaires Row,” could be swamped, as could Torrey Pines beach in San Diego County, Ocean Beach in San Francisco and Carpinteria beach in Santa Barbara County.

 

At least those types can afford to relocate.

 

[The Study] [Where that 4.6 feet figure comes from

 

 

$500 Million?

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M Scott Eiland's picture

Given the typical fare of fire and flood in Malibu, half a billion in losses in the next nine decades would be an improvement. Personally, I wouldn't want to own stock in any insurance company that has a significant investment in covering Malibu housing.

The universe may well have been created without a point--that doesn't imply that we can't give it one.

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HankP's picture

big losses mean big premiums. As long as the actuaries know what they're doing and the really big risks are laid off on reinsurance companies the primary insurers can make a lot more money there than they can in Idaho.

I blame it all on the Internet

actuaries ?

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Short-tail risk profile generates the exit option.

““I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we’re Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration!”” –H

Lot Of Big, Frequent Losses There

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There comes a point when no premium that anyone will pay is going to be enough to compensate. I suspect that the companies that do it are banking on the prestige of insuring celebrities to bring in business, but it makes them look foolish.

The universe may well have been created without a point--that doesn't imply that we can't give it one.

I just looked at some properties on zillow

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that are comparable to my property, the taxes and insurance didn't seem excessive compared to what I pay here in WA.

I blame it all on the Internet

It's Early in the Century Yet

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Sea level rise should start of slowly, then accelerate. The same is probably expected of the pace natural disasters and increasing insurance rates.

every other earthling

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Gore's, and every other earthling's, problem, is that the solution to global warming is inimicable to how Americans perceive their interests. It's a global problem that needs a global solution, and that requires some sort of levelling of wealth and a rethinking of the economic injunction to growth.

Investments in "green technology" - rail systems, nuclear power, fuel efficiency - will only add to the problem and maybe even exacerbate it. (Jevons paradox tells something along these lines.)

 

There was a German socialist politician of the 1920/30s, Earnest Thalmann, I think, who is notorious for his strategy of accepting Hilter on the grounds that once he has power he would run the country into the ground and Germans would come to understand their error in straying from the socialist fold. Criticism of Thalmann and his strategy is certainly justified, but it might be the only reasonable path to take in problem we are have with America's retreat into fantasy and magic in face of global warming. My knowledge of frontier medicine is extremely limited, but I know that when shot by a savage with an arrow, do not pull it out, you have push it through; let it run its course. If Americans are determined to squander their wealth on wars and weaponry, the rest of the world will have to grin and bear it. It won't last forever.

You will kill 10 of our men, and we will kill 1 of yours, and in the end it will be you who tire of it. - Ho Chi Minh

Not sure what the point of this is

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Is it that because Al Gore used the word "faith" in some context, while talking about global warming, he must just believe GW without evidentiary support?  That having faith that the American people will do something is somehow equivalent to having faith about the existence or nonexistence of actual empirical facts?

 

I will grant you that his faith in the American people to make good decisions based on facts is probably misplaced.  That notion, unlike AGW, is unfortunately not supported by empirical evidence.

There Wasn't a Point

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Really. But you've picked up on its penumbra. 

 

Facts are stubborn things; their deniers are moreso. 

  

Confidence that GW is a threat, or even that GW is AGW, among Americans is declining, which is correlated with deniers' efforts to question the science, or Algore's failed messaging, or Americans' acute interpretation of the facts.

 

To the extent there was a point, mmghosh has elucidated it. Right or wrong, Algore is losing.

Mr Gore is, sadly, too late. He had his chance in the 1990s -

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8 years when he could have done something.

 

I mean, I admire him for his tenacity and all that, but if the end result of his campaigning is that the major contender for the Presidency of the USA believes that there is a conspiracy between the world's scientists and metereologists to falsify facts in order to make money, then its a pretty ****ing indication of his failure as a communicator.

 

If he can't communicate publicly available science to the richest, most literate and educated community of people in the world [i]ever[/i], what hope has he of communicating [i]anything[/i] to the vast mass of the ROW?  And you can't mess with that group.  Our politicians respond to their needs of the mass, whether totalitarian or democratic.

 

As an example, read the comments on this blog - from an educated and aware population, with 100% literacy and access to every modern form of information.

 

http://photoblog.statesman.com/dry-season-the-texas-drought-of-2011

 

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Lord hear the prayers of the people and grant their pleas for rain in Texas to revive and renoursh the land for the benefit of Your creation. We will give you the praise, Honor and Glory for Your Blessings. Amen Aug 31, 2011 @ 11:40 pm JaycieP
I sit here and cry and pray for my neighbors in Llano County. Understand, we have seen negligible rain since early 2008. That is four years without. Please pray that God will grace us with what we so desperatly need. Sep 01, 2011 @ 8:09 am George
May God have mercy on our land. We repent of our sins and cry out to God to open the heavens and send the rain for His glory. We ask this in the glorious name of Jesus! Sep 01, 2011 @ 10:50 am
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The key verse is found in 1 Kings 18:46, to wit: “And the hand of The Lord was on Elijah. . . ” confirming and affirming Elijah’s bold display of faith (1 Kings 18:36-45)! THIS is the Bible Belt, for crying out loud! P-o-w-e-r resides here! Do sinners reside therein? Yes. Assuredly so. However, righteous do also! Abraham bravely “negotiated” a vengeful God’s relenting of His Divine intent to utterly destroy ALL WHO LIVED in wicked Sodom and Gomorrah commencing with a “What if . . .” 50 righteous could be found per chance might God be predisposed to spare all inhabitants consecutively reducing the number down to 45, then to 30, then 20, then 10! Ergo, let some on-fire, power-laden Pentecostal Minister-of-the-Word assemble at least 10 righteous folks together for the express purpose of calling down sustained rain on all of Texas (and the Southwest), breaking the drouth, rescuing man and beast alike and all for one overriding reason: That His Romans 8:11 Resurrection Power be made known as stated in Romans 9:22! Note: If you good folks residing in the middle of this unfolding disaster aren’t moving forward in that direction you’re moving backwards so get to work assembling the necessary personnel! He waits to be glorified. Sep 03, 2011 @ 3:31 pm
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Excuse me, HELLO! Good photos of what is happening here. I live in Gillespie County. This is real. This is NOT a political agenda. This is not a religious disagreement. This is not an opportunity the citizens of Texas have proclaimed in order for other people to proliferate their selfish ideas. This is a DROUGHT. We don’t need your pontifications. We don’t need your disagreements over our Governor, our government, our religions, our treatment of animals, or any other made up idealism or negativism. We need RAIN. We are dealing with enough reality that we certainly don’t need your opinions. I am a 6th generation Republic of Texan. And my family was Christian (and IS) long before that. There have been hard times. There will be hard times to come. Such is life. We are not expecting anyone to legislate or wave a magic wand to fix it. And PRAYER for rain is appreciated. If you can’t do that, be quiet and go away. Find another cause to promote your opinions. Good Grief! We have to deal with the drought, but we certainly don’t have to deal with all these ridiculous soap box theories! Like my grandma used to say, “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say ANYTHING!” Sep 03, 2011 @ 9:53 pm
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In response to “Jon” the UT Science Grad and those who have responded to him. Stuff happens, and “Life’s not fair”….let’s get that out of the way, but so far as I’ve read in the postings here, everyone seems to be blaming our “God of Love” for the drought, the fires, everything under the sun and He let’s us rant on and on, but….let me tell you it is NOT God who has ’caused’ all this devastation….if you believe in God, you also more than likely believe in evil as well. God, in His Mercy has spared homes, people, property, livestock. My sister’s home was dead center in Bastrop fire and it was the only one in her neighborhood that was untouched, not because she’s so good, but because God loves her. But if it had not been spared would it be because God loved her less! Absolutely NOT!…He only allows and “ALL things work together for good to THOSE who LOVE God.” Romans 8:28 What has been destroyed is the work of SATAN! It is not caused by people with labels (pick one, race, sexual orientation, political affiliation, religious beliefs, etc.) rather it is because we who call ourselves ‘Christian’ need to get back to our ‘first love’….the love for Christ our Savior.
Sep 10, 2011 @ 7:18 am[/quote] These are all good people. Mr Gore hasn't got through to them. He is a failure.

God gave us oil and he wants us to burn it. All of it. -nt-

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"Hell is truth seen too late." --Thomas Hobbes

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not sure what you read there that makes you think they're "good people". Superstitious maybe, ignorant almost certainly. But I don't see where "good" comes from.

 

EDIT: Texas appears to have ~90% literacy rate.

I blame it all on the Internet

The what?

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If he can't communicate publicly available science to the richest, most literate and educated community of people in the world ever,

Dude, you are kidding, right? Richest? In stuff, yes, though I would argue about quality of life.

 

But most literate and educated? Hardly. By most measures average American education is pretty far down the list and especially so in science and math. Elite education is of high quality, but it is by definition not shared by the mass of the population.

 

 

This was clear enough to Larkin, whose patriotism rested on the notion that England was the worst place on earth with the possible exception of everywhere else.

Yesterday I gave a guy $25 for a pizza that cost $24.50

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He punched it up on his calculator and then opened up the register and handed me a dollar and 2 quarters. 

 

The pizza was a delicious Chicago-style pie that took over an hour to make, but that is not my point.

Always blaming America first

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when that calculator was almost certainly made in China or Malaysia.

 

And neither of those countries has the knowledge base required to produce a pizza worth $24.50.

I don't think anyone

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Has the knowledge base necessary to produce a pizza worth $24.50.

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