Buttercup to the "Elite" "We're Not Going to be Bullied"


Poor little buttercup sings a song of dismay while breaking bread with celebrities. Apparently, he can't deal with a "hockey mom" who uses poor little buttercup's own words against him.

So while Obama was whining and wimpering (as well as raising big bucks, $30,800 a person) with the "Elite" over at Bonjovi's, the Hero and the Hockey Mom were meeting with the people who inhabit those small towns that Obama so loves to mock.

No celebrities were available and they weren't missed, the Hero and the Hockey Mom enjoyed the following:

Whitney Clapper sang "The Anthem" and An honor guard from the American Legion’s Peter Wollner Post 288 in Cedarburg will appear on stage, and Boy Scout Troop 830 of Cedarburg will lead the Pledge of Allegiance, Gottlieb said. Also, 25 members of the Cedarburg High School band performed.

Why is Obama & Co. so worried, after all it is only a small town, well

She's [Palin] a real woman, she's a real feminist but she's not strident — she's like us,” said Hauswirth, a middle-aged mother who didn’t offer her age. “She’s strong, powerful and opinionated, all the things a women should be, while still retaining her femininity, her womanhood.”

and apparently there is just an affinity

“She’s got a real family with real troubles, just like the rest of us,” said Melody Halstrom, a middle-aged women from River Hills, Wis., who came over to the Cedarburg rally. “You know, she’s got teenagers,” Halstrom said...

Country First over Celebrity, sounds like a winner to me.

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"Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much." Ob

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Of course, John McCain is a liar as this anedote proves (#117522)
by Bill White

Loved the irony: in the film intro to Cindy McCain, the narrator told the "cute"(?) story of her meeting John at a cocktail party in Hawaii - Cindy, 24, said she was 27 and John, 41, said he was 37 (and, presumably didn't mention that he was married and had three kids), She then launched into her speech about how honest John is - he will never, ever lie to you. Hmmm.

They lied to each other the moment they met and married McCain hit on a girl 17 years younger and then violated his marriage vows.

And then Cindy McCain goes on the big screen and says that John will never, ever lie to us.

Heh!

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Fence post turtles -- They don't get up there by themselves, some moron had to put 'em there.

Heh (#117294)
by Harley

I love the notion that 'she's just like us' is the best possible recommendation for what might turn out to be, in times of tragedy, the most important job on the planet.

Call me crazy. I think we might want to do a little better than that.

Also? "Poor little buttercup"? Classy as always. And another thing that's always amused me. Republican lackwits who find great humor and tactical advantage in repeated attempts to feminize their opposition -- by saying things they wouldn't say to the target's face in a million years.

In this way we add cowardice to incoherence.

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To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard

ah cowardice, (#117714)
by Timmy the Wonder Dog

I simply pointed out that victimhood is so unappealing I would have absolutely no problem saying that to the target's face.

The simple situation is this, one candidate has been ravaged by the MSM and she takes them head on.., whereas little pinpricks forces the vicitimhood card to be played by the other one.

BTW, I missed you similar observation on Spin's Diary.

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"Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much." Ob

'She Takes Them Head On' -- Heh (#117716)
by Harley

Actually, Timmy. Reading teleprompter lines Matt Scully wrote for somebody else two weeks before she gave the speech? That doesn't really count.

In order to take someone 'head on'? You actually have to sit down and answer a a few simple questions. We'll see. Maybe Gov. Palin will work up the courage to do so in the near future. Heck. She might even do it more than once.

I wouldn't count on it, though.

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To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard

The next thing you will tell me is that Obama doesn't (#117729)
by Timmy the Wonder Dog

employee speech writers; he gets all of his speeches directly from god.

But more importantly, the line was less than two weeks old, the timing was superior and more importantly the general public agrees with it.

Harley, please, please stop using Obama & Co. talking points.

BTW, Palin has scheduled an interview with ABC News and more importantly, the Uberdude and the guy with a tingle have both been demoted in MSNBC's coverage in the upcoming debates. I think it has to do with when Sarah commented on the D.C. elite and the MSM, the chant which followed was, NBC.

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"Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much." Ob

Posting rules. (#117300)
by Jordan

Implying Timmy is a lackwit & coward...please desist. Surely you have some arguments that don't depend on Timmy's alleged character flaws?

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH

Oh, Miss Manners (#117304)
by Harley

I was pretty careful to talk about Republican lackwits. The fact that Timmy employs a similar rhetorical device, and one I abhor, is merely coincidental.

Any 'implied' connection is the reader's inference. In this case, your own.

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To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard

Can you tell what I'm inferring now? (#117312)
by Jordan

Could you just knock it off? Do we have to add "no insults by implication" to the posting rules? You're not really going to make the mods work that hard, are you?

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH

Not At All, Jordan, and Fair Enuf (#117318)
by Harley

But that's the problem. "No insults by implication" is *not* in the posting rules. Never has been. If that was the case, then the simple act of replying "tee hee" to another commenter would qualify.

I'd suggest there are enough direct insults to police. Expanding your purview to include the inferred would, yes, be hard work. (As I know, having done the job not once, but twice.)

And yes, this is merely my opinion.

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To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard

"No insults by implication" is *not* in the posting rules. (#117711)
by Timmy the Wonder Dog

BTA, Harley you have used that exact vehicle.

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"Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much." Ob

ROFL! Palin's already being lured into the kill zone. (#117279)
by BlaiseP

The Dems are paying out line, letting her run, like a hooked trout. The more she says, the worse things will get for her.

David Alexrod is a clever dude. He's Obama's chief strategist, and he knows this business of Illinois politics, few better.

Let me be a clue to the clueless here. Illinois is mostly small towns, and they're getting smaller every day. It's a mostly Republican state by territory, but it's a Democratic stronghold. Obama's done a whole lot of business with these rural Republicans. Springfield's a long way from Chicago, it's also a long way from the little strip of blue at the bottom of the state. The Dems have done quite well appeasing small town Illinois, and guess who was in charge of Emil Jones' appeasement campaign.

Yes, that's right, Barack Obama: Emil Jones' chief point man for Republican Water-Carrying. Emil Jones made a regular Gunga Din of Barack Obama, because all the other Dem politicians were well-hated Chicago boys, especially Hollywood Hendon.

You don't seem know anything about Illinois politics, Wonder Dog. I do. Once you're outside Cook County, even the collar counties, especially DuPage, are Republican. But that pattern is breaking down in the collar counties, and increasingly so downstate. Hastert got bushwhacked and retired in disgrace: the most powerful Republican in the House of Representatives was replaced with a Democrat, Bill Foster, a physicist from Geneva. The western suburbs along the Fox River, my home base, is going Democratic, too. Even DuPage County is going Democratic, Wheaton, once the bastion of Republicanism in Illinois is partly in the 14th, and that's a huge change.

How did this happen? Why are so many once-rural counties going Dem? Because this isn't the 1960s and 70s, with white flight syndrome. The Dems have made great strides in coordinating with rural interests, especially in fading towns like Joliet and even rising ones like the towns due west of Chicago. People are just sick of Republican cronyism. Hastert's Highway turned a lot of people off to idea of Republican ideals: these Repubs were sposta manage growth, keep people on their farms, support rural interests. Well they didn't, either in the House of Representatives or in the Illinois State Senate.

Emil Jones broke up ancient logjams in the Illinois Senate, mostly by handing out goodies like improved public schools in rural districts. Emil Jones made some smart moves, and Barack Obama was his herald. Rural districts understand this: as the farms increase in size, the only thing holding towns together is the school. If the school dies, the whole community dies. Barack Obama also managed the contentious death penalty issue for Emil Jones: Obama single-handedly converted the police organizations from enemies to friends.

If you want to make this debate about personalities and not issues, that's great. Plays to Democratic strengths, please take this approach. You know the Repubs don't have a leg to stand on, like the Repubs didn't have a leg to stand on in Illinois: the rout of Republicans from high office was complete in Illinois, and will likely be true in the upcoming election as well. There's more at stake than the presidency, as you doubtless realize. The Dems might even get a veto-proof majority, in which case I'd advise you to move to Alaska or Idaho or Wyoming forthwith. Build a survival shelter: the Dems will go through the bowels of this corrupt government like a dose of salts.

responding (#117293)
by nilsey

well you might want to look up TR and the 1907 fruit fly scandals for a pertinent construct.

i think you'll find the timeline is, relevant and important.

now ask yourself, who is the free market in this construct?

exactly.

not really (#117283)
by catchy

If you want to make this debate about personalities and not issues, that's great. Plays to Democratic strengths

D's strength lies in the fact that on issues they're more popular.

And so far one party has proved more adept at character assassination.

If Ds don't keep this election focused on the economy they might lose.

Who are you trying to kid here? Sauce for the goose. (#117291)
by BlaiseP

Are you telling me the Republicans are going to run on their track record here? I didn't hear one word about President Bush or Vice President Cheney at the convention. I heard a lot about corruption, though. These simplistic assessments only amuse me. America might be dumb, but it's not that dumb, Catchy.

I gather, since you don't have anything to say about my reporting on Illinois politics, that you generally agree with my assessments.

It really is about the economy. Barack Obama has actual plans (pdf), not that you're reading them. We're going to get this country back on track, like we always do when things get bad.

That's us, the Democratic Party, the Party of Grown-ups. We don't sit around like a bunch of whiny teenagers, grumbling about perceived injustices. That's all the Republican Party is doing: telling outright lies and fearmongering. It might work with a handful of Christian Taliban, but ordinary Americans have developed an allergy to the Republican Way of Doin' Things. They might vote for McCain, if they believe the lies and subscribe to the whining, but when the curtains close around the voting booth, America's going to give the Republican Party the worst beating it's ever had, and it will be entirely deserved.

You Republicans have completely failed to deliver on your promises. Worse, you've decided to back a hugely unpopular war. Even worse, you can't do anything about the price of oil or groceries or health care or anything of substance between now and the elections. You're riddled with scandals, your leadership hides from the public, and you sit around like the Trotskyites, saying oh well Bush wasn't a real Conservative just like Stalin wasn't a real Communist. When it mattered, when you could have changed things, when McCain still had a brain in his head and a heart in his chest, you rejected him for George W Bush. And then you voted him back into office! What is wrong with you people?

There comes a point, even for the most hard-headed, when the pain grows too intense to cling to delusions. That point was reached with four dollar gasoline. Your goose is cooked. Obama has already started paying the O'Reilly Factor a visit, and he'll pay plenty more visits to your Ayatollahs over time. Republicans are intellectually and morally bankrupt this time around, and it's a crying shame, because the country could have used a decent Conservative president over the last two terms.

Um (#117295)
by HankP

JFTR, I'm pretty sure catchy is not part of "you Republicans", he's just pointing out who's better at shameless character assassination.

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I blame it all on the Internet

He Just Played One At The Convention :-P -nt- (#117404)
by M Scott Eiland

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Yes, and I'm very upset (#117431)
by HankP

at the lack of pictures. I'm thinking a "before" and "after" would be nice.

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I blame it all on the Internet

Okay "You Republicans" might be too inclusive a statement (#117298)
by BlaiseP

I should have written "The Republicans".

so this is the offical GOP narrative (#117266)
by heet

It's pretty sucky.

More "character" vs "issues" nonsense.

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Over here on E Street, we're proud to support Obama for President. - Bruce Springsteen

If its character vs issues, where is McCain's character? (#117524)
by Bill White

Love this irony: in the film intro to Cindy McCain, the narrator told the "cute"(?) story of her meeting John at a cocktail party in Hawaii - Cindy, 24, said she was 27 and John, 41, said he was 37 (and, presumably didn't mention that he was married and had three kids), She then launched into her speech about how honest John is - he will never, ever lie to you. Hmmmmmm.

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Fence post turtles -- They don't get up there by themselves, some moron had to put 'em there.

Ah Timmy... (#117264)
by Wagster

The irony of your last sentence is unintended, isn't it?

Meanwhile the count continues. 8 days since the Palin introduction and she still hasn't faced an substantive interviewer. I wonder... if she is sworn in and McCain has a stroke on the inauguration podium... would they let her have a teleprompter when she meets Putin?

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More Wagster!

actually the last sentence, sums up the current (#117712)
by Timmy the Wonder Dog

situation nicely.

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"Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much." Ob

Were you not a party (#117261)
by Kierkegaard

to the agreement not to indulge in name-calling? If not, shouldn't you be?

You're kidding, right? (#117296)
by HankP

That was just Scott and Harley, and unfortunately it was only for a limited duration.

However, I'm cynical enough to not ask for a vote on banning name calling. :)

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I blame it all on the Internet

Kidding or not (#117396)
by Kierkegaard

I object to it, nonetheless.

No, asking for a vote on anything here would be the real joke ;)

When one raises victimhood (#117713)
by Timmy the Wonder Dog

twice in the same day, buttercup is an apt description.

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"Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much." Ob

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