Like Magic, The Forvm Can Make Election Results Disapear?!?
...hey, just like the Joker and the pencil...smash their face into it and...presto, it's gone!
Just like magic.
Just like a Diebold election, is that what just occurred?
Kind of everyone's nightmare....with lots of sensitivity on the issue, especially here where we are...attuned and maybe past abused by....false elections...this may sting.
May I ask what happened after the 9PM closing of the polls where there was Tom and a three way tie between Scott, Jordan and Wagster?
Did someone just out-and-out steal this election?
If this is the way it was going to be, why even have an election?
Curious....and more than a little worried for the soul of The Forvm.
Cheating in elections ain't supposed to be allowed...and the comment section has been turned off under that thread, suddenly.
Pretty weird!
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Aside from the keen disappointment of missing this latest episode of Waste Of Our Lives, :)
I think we should fix the voting rules before next election. Caesar's wife must be beyond reproach. :)
--Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH
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)Caesar's wife was a two-bit whore. Don't you remember the famous line "Et tu slute?"
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| parent )...seriously, that 'pun,' cannot go...unchallenged? Permitted to stand?
Caesar then married Pompeia, a cousin of Pompey. This marriage ended in divorce because of a scandal that occurred during the rites of Bona Dea. Since Caesar was Pontifex Maximus at the time, these rites were conducted in his house by Pompeia and his mother. No men were allowed to be present (and to this day we still do not know what the actual rites were). Clodius disguised himself as a woman and entered the rites, but Caesar's mother discovered him when he failed to disguise his voice. Rumors arose that Pompeia herself had abetted this sacrilege. Caesar divorced her because of these rumors on the grounds that -- as we still say today -- "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion." In 59 BC Caesar married Calpurnia, daughter of Piso. It was she who dreamed of his imminent death just before the fateful Ides of March.
Interestingly, looking at this today...I wonder if this wasn't some small genesis of their later falling out? People would usually thing that I mean Caesar's....but Pompey's attitude towards Caesar also...(especially because I am of the firm opinion that it was Pompey's frecklessness that caused the Civil War and break up of the Republic)
A bad pun is still bad...lol
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| parent )Actually, guys, you're giving me too much credit. I don't know jack about what you guys are discussing. I just saw an opportunity for a cheap, crude, not-quite-clever joke, and I took it.
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| parent )they were talking about this:
starting at 5:30
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| parent )is that he would stick fiercely to his friends, especially the resilient Crouton. It counted for a lot back in Romaine times, when you never knew who you'd be tossed together with. Of course that Pompeia couldn't be trusted. Extra Virgin my @$#.
--Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH
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| parent )Laurels on your brow and petals on your path.
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| parent )...I've seen the Producers a dozen times....and never would I have remembered this reference.
On the other hand, we can trust that you are not personally identifying too strongly with Leo Bloom can't we? (hee, hee, hee)
Nice clip and it made me laugh.
Best Wishes, Traveller
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| parent )I'm Max Bialystock all the way, although I can play a pretty good Leo Bloom if I have to.
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| parent )started after the death of Caesar's daughter, Julia, who was married to Pompey. Until then, the two consuls had acted in relative political concert; after her death--due to the immutably opposing agendas of their two parties--war was inevitable between them, regardless of whatever personal feelings might have remained.
As for Caesar's wives, he was notoriously unaffectionate and unfaithful to all but his first, Cornelia, whom he refused to divorce even when Sulla demanded it. Caesar preferred to seduce the wives of other senators (which was a factor in his assasination) and paraded his affairs with both Servilia and Cleopatra publicly.
Pompey was a pompous ass, the heir to a vast fortune and the near-private army of his father. His family were provincials of Gaulish origin, ardent social-climbers who therefore championed the most conservative elements of the aristocracy. Caesar, who was (unlike Augustus) a patrician of impeccable pedigree, was a darling of the masses. Pompey was an indifferent general, Caesar a genius.
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| parent )Love Power...
The power of a little flower
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| parent )...is more or less the same as Colleen McCullough's.
Is there anybody out there who offers a contrarian (i.e., supportive) view of the Great Man?
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| parent )Seeing as our main sources are limited principally to Caesar himself and Plutarch, I'm not sure how much more of a variation you could squeeze any more out of those two lemons.
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| parent )view, but I didn't have the actual texts to hand. On the Internet, of course, I now see
Project Gutenberg has the complete opus
I think he was better than others portrayed him, on this evidence
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/37*.html
and furthermore
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/41*.html
Manish Ghosh
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| parent )...but alas, it's 9pm, I haven't eaten and so I will have to pause on this very worthy subject till some future time.
But sincerely, thanks again for always meaty and thoughtful commentary.
Yummmy!
Best Wishes, Traveller
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| parent )in the sense that that Cicero's speeches on Pompey (on changing the Manilian Law for example) might have had a large element of hagiography. I believe there is considerable literature on the subject which I must confess I haven't explored.
Plutarch and Cassius Dio seem to be more historians, with the advantage of hindsight; also for Cassius even though he was writing in Greek, it might have been politically incorrect to praise Pompey over the Caesar.
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| parent )on many issues in regard to Caesar--just not the ones I've outlined.
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| parent )...saw Pompey as the greater man of the two.
On his Death:
After his arrival in Egypt, Pompey's fate was decided by the counselors of the young king Ptolemy XIII. While Pompey waited offshore for word, they argued the cost of offering him refuge with Caesar already en route for Egypt. It was decided to murder Caesar's enemy to ingratiate themselves with him. On September 29, his 58th birthday, the great Pompey was lured toward a supposed audience on shore in a small boat in which he recognized two old comrades-in-arms, Achillas and Lucius Septimius. They were to be his assassins.
While he sat in the boat, studying his speech for the king, they stabbed him in the back with sword and dagger. After decapitation, the body was left, contemptuously unattended and naked, on the shore. His freedman, Philipus, organized a simple funeral pyre and cremated the body on a pyre of broken ship's timbers.
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From Wikipedia:
He was a hero of the Republic, who seemed once to hold the Roman world in his palm only to be brought low by his own poor judgment and Caesar. Pompey was idealized as a tragic hero almost immediately after Pharsalus and his murder: Plutarch portrayed him as a Roman Alexander the Great, pure of heart and mind, destroyed by the cynical ambitions of those around him.
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| parent )...not really, but let's have some fun with this.
Caesar and Pompey may have ostensible gotten along as part of the Triumvirate but, Caesar may have harbored a resentment that a wife named Pompeia was foisted on him by Pompey and she quite possibly proved to be a trollop.
Likewise, Pompey could have resented her being so summarily discharged as Caesar's wife...wrongfully to his mind.
Contra all of this, he did give Julia to Pompey for marriage.
But, considering their political standing at the time and the custom of political marriages, was there ever any choice in this giving of Julia to Pompey?
The death of Julia was, by all accounts, Devastating to Caesar personally...for which he blamed the old randy billy goat, Pompey.
Contemporary account seem to indicated that Julia actually loved, or at least liked Pompey and that he adored her as did Caesar.
Thus, the policy of inbreeding and political marriages helped, imo, sow the seeds of the disaster to come.
BTW, notoriously unaffectionate and unfaithful?
There is little doubt that Calpurnia loved Caesar as did Cleopatra...so a difficult man he may have been, but he was loved by his women.
Best Wishes, Traveller
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| parent )My wife dragged me off to supper before I could finish the post. There's a terrific paucity of sources on this topic, as you know, so protracted debate is a bit for its own sake. All I ever meant to point out was that Pompeiia is almost unknown to history except for Caesar's manner of divorcing her, so her lack of virtue is but a conjecture. Caesar's goatish behavior, however, is confirmed by several.
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| parent )...or maybe Caesar really, really liked women. There are any number of seducers that, while they make love to women, really don't like them.
Caesar, on the other hand, had an intensely close relationship with his mother, the Vestal Virgins, Cornelia, Servilia, (though possibly not Pompeyeia), and with Calpernia...
this is not particularly flattering of Caesar:
65 BCE: He was elected curule aedile and spent lavishly on games to win popular favor; large loans from Crassus made these expenditures possible. There were rumors that Caesar was having an affair with Gnaeus Pompey's wife, Mucia, as well as with the wives of other prominent men.
We have all read the original source material....maybe repeatedly...and from our distance I can project myself on Caesar, as I have in this analysis or not...some times I see Caesar as a Tabla Rosa, a blank slate that we and history can have our fun writing on as current terms dictate.
No need to apologize, it's all fun when I read or converse with you.
Best Wishes, Traveller
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| parent )She was innocent, I tell you - innocent!
--Live not by lies.
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| parent )Some of us were working and could not leverage our preference at the wire... I for one am glad Hank had his priorities straight and was helping the kid with photo shop... I can wait to see what she does with old pics of mom and dad... :) Besides someone is going to vote last... And any of the top six or seven would have done fine... I mean being the most vile poster around.. When I am not lurking or coming to the thread three days after everyone else has moved on....
Besides we can always have a recall and appoint that guy with the pitch fork and tail... Cesar is always in the wings to save the Empire...
Maximus: Do you find it difficult to do your duty?
Cicero: Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to.
Maximus: I knew a man once who said, "Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back."
Quintus: People should know when they are conquered.
Maximus: Would you, Quintus? Would I?
Marcus Aurelius: There was a dream that was Rome. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish, it was so fragile.
Gracchus: Fear and wonder, a powerful combination.
Falco: You really think people are going to be seduced by that?
Gracchus: I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it's the sand of the coliseum. He'll bring them death - and they will love him for it.
Proximo: [addressing his new recruits] I am Proximo! I shall be closer to you for the next few days, which will be the last of your miserable lives, than that bitch of a mother who first brought you screaming into this world! I did not pay good money for your company. I paid it so that I might profit from your death. And just as your mother was there at your beginning, I shall be there at your end. And when you die - and die you shall - your transition will be to the sound of...
[claps his hands]
Proximo: Gladiators... I salute you.
Proximo: Ultimately, we're all dead men. Sadly, we cannot choose how but, what we can decide is how we meet that end, in order that we are remembered, as men.
Lucilla: Is Rome worth one good man's life? We believed it once. Make us believe it again. He was a soldier of Rome. Honor him.
Marcus Aurelius: [to his daughter Lucilla] If only you had been born a man, what a Caesar you would have made.
Proximo: I know that you are a man of your word, General. I know that you would die for honor, for Rome, for the memory of your ancestors. But as for me? I'm an entertainer.
On to the forvm you Gladiators it is election season and the blood shed awaits the forked tongue and those of little wit and thin skin...... :)
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)there are people who are mistrustful of all elections rather than just the ones with outcomes they don’t like. Interesting.
--"I can no more disown him [Reverend Jeremiah Wright] than I can disown the black community"- Senator Barack Obama, March 18, 2008
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)I blame it all on the Internet
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| parent )I was dad-gum giddy at the prospect of a jarhead with a Bam stick.
Ah, well. Perhaps next time.
--Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham
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| parent )and for the same reasons as you.
I wanted to see how things would play out w. a bam-stick happy mod.
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| parent )we'll only find out when pigs grow wings, which is likely a blessing for everyone.
--"I can no more disown him [Reverend Jeremiah Wright] than I can disown the black community"- Senator Barack Obama, March 18, 2008
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| parent )I come high and cheaply recommended.
--Brevis esse laboro, obscurus fio.
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| parent )-0o-
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| parent )Shrum has a solid record of running well-managed losing campaigns.
Reminds me of a typical Greek diner. Menu has a gazillion items on it. Anything you could possibly want they can make badly.
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| parent )“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”
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| parent )Needs an m-dash between 'high' and 'and'.
Stupid punctuation!
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| parent )... way before ya'll.
Hell, I was pulling the damn bandwagon.
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| parent )I was before he even had a band.
--Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham
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| parent )I barely registered enough votes for a band, let alone a wagon.
--"I can no more disown him [Reverend Jeremiah Wright] than I can disown the black community"- Senator Barack Obama, March 18, 2008
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| parent )I know some of you guys are just pulling my leg and trying to get a rise out of me, but I take honesty and personal honor seriously, especially when it comes to running this site. The fact is, if I really wanted to f^%k with this stuff I could do pretty much anything I wanted to, I could just directly edit the database. And that would be a nightmare, having a sysadmin that you couldn't trust. Secret ballots would make it even worse, then there's be no record of what I did. So there has to be trust, or else it's time to look for a new sysadmin. That's why I'm touchy about this kind of stuff, even in jest.
The fact is, we're just not going to have the same kinds of controls that (ideally) our real voting systems have. If you think it's unfair that I get to be the last one to vote, feel free to suggest a (simple) way of avoiding the problem. I can tell you that no matter what system you come up with, it will still come down to trust in the sysadmin.
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)...with you of all people. Ideologically, emotionally, intellectually...we are so aligned. I do not doubt your sincerity nor do I mean to impinge your honor.
....and yet, maybe it was clear to you but it wasn't to me that....and I don't think that even you knew to what extent this would prove to be true...but with a small voting base, a tight election, You chose the moderators.
That's cool, but we should make allowance for this in the future because I don't think that is anyone's intention or expectation.
And it puts you in a tough, untenable position that you can't want to be in either.
It's a snag, it's there, no big....but we should acknowledge that it's there and make provisions in the future for this.
The polls were closed, there is my post along the left side of that screen shot, there was a post by Zelig congratulating the four....and then things changed.
Like I noted earlier, it's no big...but I'm not going to bury it under the rug either.
I would have preferred 4 mods, but three is good...(truth is that I really wanted Bernard to get up there so he could be a tie breaker...and five would have had a nice ring to it. The more the merrier.
But it went in another direction...I'm not having kittens over it, but it did go in a different direction.
That's all....I hope I make myself clear.
Very Best Wishes,
Traveller
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| parent )I just picked 3 out of the top 4 by breaking a tie - if I really "picked the moderators" the results may have been very different.
Face it, somebody always has to vote last. My guess is that Kierkegaard is right in saying this wasn't really a vote, it was more like a trading floor. If votes were irreversible it would make for a very different dynamic.
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| parent )The concept of you screwin' around with ssomething here is beyond ridiculous IMO. Has no one here ever lost an eBay auction?
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| parent )Fun city.
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)Our good friends are succeeding in irritating me with this discussion, and I'm going to give them until tomorrow morning to settle down. If they haven't, I'm going to resign from the troika and thereby promote you. If this outcome would be displeasing to you, let me (and the other people posting comments in this diary) know.
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)The Supreme Court has spoken!
Seriously, all the people nominated are good people and I'm sure they would apply the posting rules fairly, and that most certainly includes you. I'm flattered (and a little shocked) that I was the choice of as many people as I was.
Good luck with your mod duties... I had half a mind to add an obscenity in order to haze you, but I'm afraid I don't have enough energy this morning.
--More Wagster!
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| parent )I'm less cranky this morning, and no longer inclined to storm off in a huff--we've had enough of the GBCW theme this last week. Thank you for your vote of confidence.
I'll leave the offer open, though. If you want to take over, make a comment somewhere we can all see it to that effect, and I'll send the others an email requesting my voluntary demotion to alternate.
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| parent )...this is how the election ended after 9PM PST
I was thinking like the devil on how to get Bernard up there to make it a 4 way tie....and we'd have five moderators!
Scott, there's no objection to you or a preference for Wags over you as a Moderator...
But it was cool & fun & interesting that there was a three way tie for second place...4 mods.
And then suddenly we are in Florida November 2000...which was not fun for anyone, but especially not for me. I'm seeing stars and fireworks going off in my head....!
So, yes, we'll all chill, but here's proof of how the election Really turned out.
Just sayin`
Traveller
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| parent )Wagster is now officially the Al Gore of the Forvm. Hey. Who does that make George Bush?
--"How is the world ruled, and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read." -- Karl Kraus, 1909
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| parent )And how are you with PowerPoint, Wags?
--Brevis esse laboro, obscurus fio.
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| parent )It's all four of you...
...or ANARCHY!!!!
OK, more seriously, I'm not try'n to annoy anyone. Just attempting to find out what's up and the best course to take.
Though this is kind of fun agreeing with EVERYONE. Never happened before...
...I need a drink.
--“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”
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| parent )for the last time, I didn't vote after the polls closed, I changed my vote before I closed the poll. I did it after 9 because I was caught up doing stuff with my daughter. Anyone else could have changed their vote at the last minute and done the same thing.
In all honesty, I don't care enough about who gets elected mod here to rig an election.
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)Hey, this one's over - you made that plain below.
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| parent )...he typed "j" when he was try'n for "k"...?
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| parent )Well that's better than 'My grandma died at 8:50', but we're not buyin it!!
Something's deeply fishy about all this. Are we supposed to believe that the spambots just *happened* to appear at the same time as these shenanigans?
... (OK I still haven't really thought of anything to fight with you about, but I feel like I'm getting warmer.)
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| parent ). . .Hank answered this question earlier, after I inquired about the effects of a tie.
If Wagster really wants to be a moderator this go around, I would--of course--be willing to accept a demotion to alternate.
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)[b]you forget that I'm the last one to vote before I freeze it, so I'll make sure that there aren't any ties.[b]
Polls closed at 9pm, that Hank has the power (and Privilege?) to turn the elections to his mood after the closing of the polls?
I'm sorry, that's not something I signed up for.
Hank can be the last person to vote Before 9PM PST, then freeze the results....but after the polls are closed?
Are we Argentina?
This way ruin lies....
Traveller
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| parent )But take a deep breath, nobody's intentionally try'n to pull a fast one.
--“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”
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| parent )Why should Hank get to vote post 9 pm????
I would've thrown my vote to wags off tomsyl if I knew there wasn't going to be a tie.
(Or maybe I actually did, I can't remember.)
Anyway, I'm here drinking at the puter on a Monday night and I'm backing Trav's play 100%.
HankP was just complaining that this palce shouldn't get too boring. Here we go.
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| parent )I just changed my vote before I froze the polls to eliminate a tie. Anyone else who was obsessive about it was free to do the same thing. If you're unhappy about it, take it up with the mods.
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| parent )My two cents.
Whether or not a vote was cast post exactly 9:00:00 pm (intentionally or by accident/oversight) is something that perhaps could be established, perhaps not (edit: Is there a record?).
In any case, it certainly seems possible that the one who closes the voting could ensure that his vote is the last cast, even if he closes at 9:00pm, and even if others are trying to vote at the last second (and Hank's comment, if meant seriously, indicates an intent to do so).
Whatever you guys decide to do, I think it's clear that there is a problem with having someone who votes be the person who closes the voting. Perhaps next time some disinterested, incommunicado non-voter could be found who would be willing to click at the exact moment of scheduled closing.
Also, as has been expressed by others, I appreciate Hank's work for the site, and I'm not saying he voted post-9pm, and if he did I'm not saying it was intentional.
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| parent ). . .would be to make the next election a secret vote, with no one seeing the vote totals before the election was closed (a mechanism could be put in to allow votes to be changed if a candidate dropped out during the election). Also, a predetermined mechanism for breaking ties would be a good idea. In the meantime, I repeat my offer: if Wagster wants to serve on the troika, I'm willing to give up my spot in favor of being an alternate. If I wake up tomorrow and this squabbling is still going on, I'm just going to resign outright (unless Wagster objects), and Bernard can be the first alternate. Enough already.
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| parent )I've never believed that we should be able to constantly change our votes here during the course of an election. That isn't actually democracy, that's betting on a stock market. IMHO, there should be a normal election where each of us votes just once, then perhaps a special run-off whenever two candidates finish tied.
Like in the real world.
It's a shame, however, that such a cleanly-run, good-humored, non-rancorous, and--let's face it--trivial event should leave any residue of bitterness. May I suggest we all just drop it for now and revisit rules changes at some later date?
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| parent )...X happened.
It's not the end of the world, Empires will not fall or rise over this, nobody's going to die and there will not be another barrel of oil in the world found because of this dispute....but we should be cognizant of what went down.
That's all...Denial is more than a river in Egypt.
It's a bad habit.
Traveller
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| parent ). . .this discussion is implying that Hank did something underhanded, when he stated openly in advance that he intended to cast the last vote and break a tie. No one objected when he so stated it, and there were hours before the closing of the vote for anyone to do so. If we want elections with no gameplaying--and no problems associated with ties--we should adopt something like the suggestions I made above. Those aren't the rules that were in place. Lord knows I argue a lot with Hank--and not always politely--but he's fundamentally honest and decent, and I'm not going to let a position that I'm only accepting because I'd feel like a freeloader if I refused to serve be used to make him look bad. If Wagster wants the job, it's his. If he doesn't, I'll serve. Discussion over.
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| parent )Ahem.
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| parent )ratchet angle, fuel rod insertion tolerances and all other mechano-minutiae of this site. He's the only one that does except for Mr. Drupal, who isn't talking. Ignoring his sterling rep for just a minute, if Hank wanted to tweak something here no one would know it, ever. Imagine Watergate pulled off by Warren Buffett, Albert Einstein and the Trilateral Commission.
Well, maybe that wasn't the best example, but I hope you get my drift.
--Rust never sleeps.
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| parent )the site owes you as much or more gratitude than any mod.
That said, I'm still gonna try to think of something to fight about even tho you didn't vote past 9 pm. Just give me a minute!
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| parent )We the People demand that HankP install wags.
A tie sounds fun + we all know me + Trav. are rule-followers to the core and will bolt out of this lawless joint unless we get some order around here.
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)1) HankP ain't getting paid, so cut him some slack.
2) However, I also agree with catchy. One individual, even though he does tons of work without proper appreciation, shouldn't decide a tie.
A dilemma, fer sure, but everyone be aware that nobody's trying do anything but what think is best.
--“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”
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| parent )the same way that anyone else could have, by changing their vote before the cutoff. I really don't see the issue here, I didn't do anything after the vote closed - I couldn't, if the vote is closed it's closed for everyone, including me.
--I blame it all on the Internet
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| parent )Because I changed my votes just before the cutoff, and it moved Wagster, Eiland, and Jordan into a tie.
I was putting my money where my was by moving both Jordan and Wagster up. The results at 9:01 showed a three way tie.
I'm not accusing you of anything, and I know you're in awkward position, I'm just surprised that the results changed after 9pm.
--“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”
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| parent )"How is the world ruled, and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read." -- Karl Kraus, 1909
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| parent )I can't vote once the voting is closed. I was trying to help my daughter with Photoshop, so I didn't get around to changing my vote and closing the poll until around 9:15.
If I was on the ballot and I wound up winning, I could see why people would have questions, but do you really think Scott paid me to make him a moderator? Don't you guys find this just a little bit silly?
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| parent )Don't you guys find this just a little bit silly?
Is that supposed to encourage or discourage me from commenting?
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| parent )I'm expecting a video anytime now. I'll get you started in your particular area of expertise:
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| parent )Some of us are just born with it.
Btw, you're the model of restraint when catching some flack. You can't say that about everyone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PdKpR9qNtg
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| parent )Here I thought I was running interference for Hank, and telling everyone to calm down. Now he thinks it's "silly"?
Where's my damn pitchfork?
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| parent )...I've got a closet full of those red suits, and the horns and tail kind of go every where I go...
...I hope I didn't leave it in the eighth circle; talk about your untentional/bad timing kind of irony.
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| parent )In some dusty old corner waiting to be dusted off...:)
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| parent )IMO.
As an aside, if someone like me leaves the general IQ of the place goes up, but without Hank, the place goes six feet under. Really.
--Rust never sleeps.
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| parent )and the old one didn't disappear, I just unpromoted it off the front page. I also noticed some weird stuff going on with some spam accounts being set up and posting to the front page, so I blocked them. There are some issues right now with the site, but I'm working on them.
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| parent )I still say throw wags up there.
It's technically correct, it means new blood, and plus ya gots to make that nyc + gaming crowd happy or they'll bite your butt real good (in fact they might've spammed the site).
Anyway, of course no worries if you wanna play it by the #s.
Just expect a mutinous Traveller on yer hands until he remembers he wants to photograph something.
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