Snowden Keeps on Giving Open Thread

So while Traveller wondered if Snowden would just ride off into the Russian sunset, Greenwald continues to methodically digest and release information. I had guessed that we have not heard the last of Snowden's information trove, and so it is. This week the following were confirmed:

  • SSL is broken. No surprise here. I have assumed for years that SSL and other common encryption tools can be broken by the NSA at low cost. They have strong-armed vendors, but open source software is probably broken too, though with more effort. There the method isn't to build a back door, but to include subtle vulnerabilities into code that the NSA could exploit. I would even guess that some of the vulnerabilities routinely found in all kinds of software were introduced in this manner.
  • We spy on Brazilian politicians. Not a surprise either, but a political hot potato for those affected. Brazil canceled a trip by diplomats who were coming to the US to prepare for visit to the US by Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff in October. Her trip has not yet been canceled, but she will be forced to bring up the issue with Obama.

The encryption thing is getting more coverage, since it directly impacts Americans. It will also have negative effects on the tech industry.



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I Find it Quite Amusing That Brazil Cancels Meeting With Obama


...and next week will castigate the United States before the United Nations Joint Assembly.  Yet, there is very little in US news on this important event.


The White House response:


The White House said in a statement: "The president has said that he understands and regrets the concerns [that] disclosures of alleged US intelligence activities have generated in Brazil and made clear that he is committed to working together with President Rousseff and her government in diplomatic channels to move beyond this issue as a source of tension in our bilateral relationship."


He regrets being caught...what I don't understand is what the value of the NSA programs are? The costs are extraordinarily high....He says he welcomes a conversation on these issues...he should fire Clapper and Congress should charge him with perjury.


Second, he should give a Presidential Pardon to Snowden and invite him home for this conversation Obama says he wants.


If there are values to all this surveillance, Obama has a duty to lay this out so we, the American people, can decide for ourselves.



He regrets being


He regrets being caught...what I don't understand is what the value of the NSA programs are? The costs are extraordinarily high....He says he welcomes a conversation on these issues...he should fire Clapper and Congress should charge him with perjury.


haha, no on e in power pays a price anymore for f***ing stuff up like this.


biggest security breach of intelligence in how long? and who is the bad guy? snowden?


what happens to everyone above him that enabled that breach? (and this stipulates that what they were doing made some kind of sense intelligence wise and national security wise, which i think is highly debatable).

“The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.” -George Bernard Shaw

War or Peace, the Choice is Easy, Breaking Bad or Seattle/49er's


...that is tough!


Unless the game is excellent, I'll turn to BB.


Yes I could record one or the other...but I am a real-time guy.


Best Wishes, Traveller...oh, and link to new work, Yolanda, shot yesterday



Jerusalem Trumps Both Breaking Bad and the 49er's


...on CNN Anthony Bourdain is in...what? Israel, the West Bank, the Holy Land, Jerusalem...


And I had a much as I loved being in Jerusalem, I was glad to be gone....from the intensity.


The Mediterranean shore was...more soothing. For the Romans also.




Edit: I am curious if anyone else that has been in Jerusalem, and loved it, but was happy to be gone?

Parts Unknown, Time Warner's Guide Lies about air times

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I have 2 relatives that read up on their vacation spots, learn at least a few phrases, stay for a fairly extended period of time,  a large number of the people of Israel have been one of the few things they haven't liked about their trips.  They ran into too many looking for trouble civilians proud to carry around their gun.

Guns aside


they tend to be very in your face. You're rarely left wondering what they really think. A bit like the Dutch but with more feeling. It takes some getting used to but you can get a lot done in that kind of environment if you're willing to fight for it.


The Shin Bet (Israeli Internal Security) Almost Shot and Killed

(#308323) outside of Jericho.


Funny story, I stopped because I saw a road block, no cars anywhere, many people with guns so I stopped....I was ordered out and on the ground...It was winter and I was in a heavy, bulky jacket....French Riot Police in Paris, Metro Police in Riot gear in London, you F$%% with them...with Israeli obey. Seriously.


But regular IDF are cool almost anywhere. Kind of soldier to soldier thing. Automatic.



I Particularly Like this Apologia to a Philosophy Dissertation..





I also just wanted to see if I could cut and past from a Google Library book. Still a fun read from 1920 I believe on a Dissertation submitted in 1913.



I've been to Israel a few times.


Never felt the urge to stay lon^ger than needed nor explore beyond necessity. Which is unusual for me.


Why's that, Nyoos?


Was it something you can put a name to or just one of those things? Never been there myself, and honestly, there are so many other places I'd rather spend the time and money to see so I likely never will.

In the medical community, death is known as Chuck Norris Syndrome. 

A mish mah of reasons.


I'll be honest, I didn't go with a completely open mind - I work with a big team if Israelis once every 4 years and love the experience. But going there I was accutely aware that they have an issue with half their population and it seems a little gauche to go there and have fun until there is a fair and equitable solution. It sort of implies support to one side and the more support the stronger side gets the less likely that there will be a solution.


Second - the taxi driver always tries to rip you off on the way to and from the airport - I base this on a sample size of less than 10 trips, but I've taken a lot of taxis in my day and rip off attempts are really rare in my experience.


Then there's all the conspicuous security. Lots of people with varying degrees of training everywhere with guns. Everybody complains about the airport exit procedure - which is eyewateringly attentive to detail - but at least that is professionaly done. Every hotel and club and the like seems to have its own gun totting clip board posse. I think the constant - and I mean once every 5 minutes - military helicopter patrol of the beaches adds to the feeling of a giant security theater. I don't want to sit on a beach and see an apache pass every 5 minutes and know that they're there to shoot up Palestinian fishing vessels trying to eek out a living and protect me from terrorist assault by sea.


I found very little appealing to look at in tel aviv - one nice beach resort for a coporate doo out of town. The town itself is a bit of a mess. Ugly, busy, dirty. Not 3rd world dirty, but not Zurich either. I saw Jaffa. All the while there I couldn't help thinking about the previous occupants of the buildings I was passing and the more rediculous Zionist propaganda about making the desert bloom and a land without people for a people without land.


I was surprised that there were almost 0 attempts to propagandise me. 


The Dead Sea appears to be a dirty puddle with little to recommend it. There are a lot of cosmetics comapnies flogging stuff made out of it but I wouldn't put that on my skin. 


Jerusalem itself. I love history. I have seen the wonders of Egypt. Ramses II funerary temple, watching the sun go down from an upstairs room with no one within a square mile but me, my wife, one guy trying to sell toilet paper and a Japanese tourist. is one of the memories that will last with me forever. Reading 5000 year old poetry in Karnak temple by night.  I love visit the great cathedrals, to read of peoples concerns and hopes and lives. To see what is constant through the millenia and what changes. But I haev also been to the historical dross. The Virgin Mary's house at Ephasus for example. I get the impression that Jerusalem is an ancient town of historical significance but that there is so much interest in lying about it, or in building churches and the like on top of the actual item of interest, that I doubt I would get anything from it. The cave Jesus was burried in. Really? Pull the other one.


Perhaps if they would excavate the Temple. That might be worth visiting.


So I pass on Jerusalem. 


I'd quite like to see some of the Hittite ruins in Turkey. The kids are a bit young but perhaps in a  few years...

in half the countries Ive visited


taxis from the airport try and rip you off. The solution is to have the info booth tell you how much the ride should cost, agree to it with the driver, and then just pay him the agreed upon amount even if he pretends it should be more.

Some of the best countries ive been to have shady cab drivers, so I cant count that against israel. I hear you about guilt tho. I ran into a nice seeming couple who were talking about the excellent scuba diving and snorkelling in ... Haiti. I cant imagine that

Id like to see you in beijing where you can hardly get anywhere. I was with a swiss guy just tonight who foujd it way beyond his coping skills

You'd make a crummy travel agent


Anyway, you've given me plenty of justification for having my particular uninformed opinion.  I've been to a few places in the middle-east.  Yeah the history is amazing but I haven't yet been to a place that I'd part with money or time to go back to.


In the medical community, death is known as Chuck Norris Syndrome. 



Perhaps if they would excavate the Temple. That might be worth visiting.


It might be worth visiting, but I doubt whether it would be worth the Arab intifada that would start, the various Orthodox sects fighting over whether the excavation is sacrilege or duty, numerous millenarian Christian cults in the US deciding the End Times were upon us,  Geraldo Rivera showing up to report, and maybe WWIII starting.

Oh come now.


I'm sure they could work it out if they all just sat down together and talked to each other.



Literally laughed out loud at that one. Nice.

This was clear enough to Larkin, whose patriotism rested on the notion that England was the worst place on earth with the possible exception of everywhere else.

Our CEO's First Name is Israel

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I much prefer exiting his office to entering it.

My CEO's first name is Emperor.


I don't even like being on the same death star as him, let alone entering or leaving his office. Nothing like having 'Get me the g*dd*mned TPS reports now!" punctuated with lightning.

In the medical community, death is known as Chuck Norris Syndrome. 

I Would Like to Note Anthony Bourdain(and travel location links)

(#308304) a former chef, writer, coke head and generally an all around interesting person. CNN hired him away from the Travel Channel....I like Tony a lot and even have bought his most recent book.


His  Parts Unknown hour long series for CNN is pretty good travel reportage.


If you get a chance, the Congo was particularly good, as was Jerusalem. See link for squibs on shows:


My problem with Sunday night's show, which was excellent, was that it reminded me of the religious fervor Jerusalem raised in me, a non-religious person.


I will disagree somewhat with Nyoos; I loved Israel, the history everywhere....bronze age sites and of course, Megiddo, the site of the first real war, known also as Armageddon:


Or stand on Crusader fortifications in Akko as it is now known:,_Israel


More to the point, I made it though Israel outposts and massive mind fields in the northern Golan to the Cease Fire Zone and Majdal al Shams, the largest Syrian town in....Israel, technically.


Good times.


Best Wishes, Traveller

Putin Tells the Truth, America Goes Frothing at the Mouth Crazy

(#308220) hear the US media tell it, Putin has deeply insulted America and all Americans.


In truth, Putin tried to talk to us like we were adults, capable of a dalog...not so, Americans today seem to have fallen to the ground kicking their feet and crying terrible mommy help me tears.


It is shameful.


Here is the most offending paragraph:


My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.


Every Jihadi thinks that he is special under the sun...I like Putin's caution, makes perfect sense to me.


This isn't bad either:


It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.”


Hell read the whole thing yourself:


The cold war is over...American need to chill.


Good advice is good advice wherever it comes from.



Aw, geeze, Trav. Putin can't resist mouthing off even


in a supposedly decorous and statesmanlike open letter to the American public. Here's my translation:  


1) The rebels launched the gas attacks as a "false flag" operation.  


2) The Syrian rebels are all terrorists rising up against a legitimate Syrian government. The number of good guys fighting on the rebel side is zero, as far as Putin is concerned. It's plain that the only outcome he'll accept is an Assad government completely victorious in the civil war.  


3) Force must be avoided at all costs (even UN-sanctioned force)...translation: Putin does not want an Article 7 resolution to control Syria's chemical weapons. IOW he does not want to back up the impounding of Syria's chemical weapons with UNSC-sanctioned force. If Syria decides to reneg, the UN won't be able to do anything but shake its multilateral finger.  


4) No call for ICC referral or criminal action against whoever is responsible for the attacks...if he's sure the rebels carried out the attacks, why not demand "the rule of law" be respected in that regard as well? Isn't that strange? Doesn't the wanton use of chemical weapons with impunity "threaten us all" every bit as much as battle-hardened fighters dispersing back to their home countries? Shouldn't a person claiming to speak for law and justice be interested in seeing justice for those who were killed in the attacks?  


5) Putin wants Syria to turn over its chemical weapons -- they ones they most definitely did not use on rebel suburbs in Damascus. He does not say anything about getting the rebels to turn over theichemical weapons -- the ones he claims the rebels definitely did use on those suburbs. Ask yourself why he would want to disarm the innocent Syrian government, but not the rebel groups he believes actually carried out the atrocity. (h/t Jed Lewison for this point)


6) Lots of chiding and digging that seems out of place in a diplomatic letter to the public: "with us or against us," unilateralism, American exceptionalism, portraying US foreign policy as an unbroken string of failures. It's like a student government debate. Or the Republican House, pretty much the same thing.

"Hell is truth seen too late." --Thomas Hobbes

And The EU Chides Russia Today on Trading Rules re Wine


The European Commission has warned Russia that it is "unacceptable" to use threats against ex-Soviet states which are seeking closer ties with the EU.

The warning from EU Enlargement Commissioner Stefan Fuele came after Russia banned imports of Moldovan wine and spirits, citing quality concerns.

Mr Fuele said the EU had no such issues with Moldova's alcoholic drinks.

Moldova called the Russian move unfair, echoing similar concerns in Ukraine and Armenia about Russian pressure.

Russia is offering former Soviet republics a customs union - a partnership that Belarus and Kazakhstan have already joined.

The Commission - the EU's executive - is preparing to sign association agreements with Armenia, Moldova and Ukraine in November. Such agreements are seen as key milestones towards eventual EU membership.

But last week Armenia's President Serge Sarkisian said his country was interested in joining the Russian-led customs union. The Commission responded with concern, saying Armenia could not operate two different sets of trade rules.



All of which reminds me of how Putin destroyed the Orange Revolution in Ukraine and the cutting off of gas to Ukraine and all of EU row.


Which in turn leads some credence to the current idea that the Syrian Civil War was really fomented by the Saudi's, Qutar, the US for the pipeline route that avoids Russian influence for Qutari gas to Europe.


Putin may not be a friend, but it is no stretch to see the United States as the largest Terrorist country on the planet destroying countries at will and whim....for decades now.


That's not a pretty picture either.



Shorter US: Russia Blocks UN but the US Blocks UN on Israel


...and the US is outraged by...truth telling.




Syria is not witnessing a battle for democracy, but an armed conflict between government and opposition in a multi-religious country. There are few champions of democracy in Syria. But there are more than enough Qaeda fighters and extremists of all stripes battling the government.


But this complex thought may be too difficult for Americans.


I would further add that Proof of this Attack is still wanting....and it is incumbent on the pro-Rebel side to prove the case that the Assad Regime was responsible.


Jordan cited the Human Rights Watch link....but serious people stop reading when they maintain that a canister was held up for view over Skype and thus it was determined to be Gov made.


There is some proof out there and I've linked it...but no one has yet successfully directly linked this to Assad....(German intel or Israel says....will not do for people that care about the truth).


We will see....but for now, it is all foggy mist.




Syria is in a battle for self-determination, not democracy.


Obama's speech didn't say a word about spreading democracy to Syria: he said the majority of Syrian rebels are fighting for peace, dignity and freedom from oppression. Putin is arguing against a straw man, one of many transparent holes in his argument.

"Hell is truth seen too late." --Thomas Hobbes

Syria: Battle For Religious Intolerence & Destroying a Secular





Good luck with that.


I'll cast my lot with Assad...and ship him arms to be able to drive out and or kill these jihadists.


And if we won't, then bravo to Russia for giving guns and aide to this legitimate government.



The shot heard 'round the gungrabbers' world

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Two Colorado lawmakers who pushed through four gun control laws were recalled yesterday and replaced by Republicans, even though the pro-recall side was outspent. In addition to the other reasons, this sort of explains why gun control on the federal level went nowhere this year

"Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency."

--Barack Obama, January 2009

sex and democrats


Just a note that weiner and spitzer lost yesterday following the.san diego mayors resignation. There was some talk here about how dems had the real problem with women. That turned out to be not true

sex and democrats


Just a note that weiner and spitzer lost yesterday following the.san diego mayors resignation. There was some talk here about how dems had the real problem with women. That turned out to be not true

Real Dilemma: Watch Obama or USA v Mexico Wold Cup Qualifer?nt



The United States Does Not Like Students


20 yrs. ago:


* Less than half of all college students graduated with any debt 


* For the 45% who did, the average debt was a little over $9000 (in 2012 dollars) 


* The median income for an employed college graduate was a little over $45,000 (in 2012 dollars)


* The average monthly payment over a 10 yr. window was $100 a month, or 3% of average pre-tax income




* More than 2/3rds of college students graduate with debt


* Among those, the average debt is nearly $30,000 


* The median income is a little less than $45,000


* The average monthly payment over a 10 yr. window is $300 a month, or 9% of average pre-tax income.


Conclusion: The elites running the United States do not like young people.

I've said it before


but maybe it's worth discussing again.  The basic problem is similar to health care: a third party paying (or appearing to pay) the bill for a service that is believed to be essential but doesn't have a well defined upper boundary on how much a person needs.


People have the causality arrow wrong on how university budgets are done.  Despite appearances,  it is usually not a case of deciding to hire unnecessary administrators and then jacking up tuition to pay for them.  It's the opposite.  Tuition is set to whatever the market will bear,  and then administrators decide how to divvy up the take.  If you've got an unexpected $10M in the budget,  the answer is not to reduce tuition next year,  it is to build a new facility, add some more vice presidents, etc.


At a state university, what the market will bear is X + Y where


X = all of typical family's discretionary income

Y = whatever the feds will grant or loan to the student


The county where I work is one of the poorest in the US,  so X = 0.  And it so happens that the tuition+fees are just about equal to what a typical student can get for grants and loans combined.   From an 18 year old's point of view,  a grant and a loan are the same.  You sign some papers and your bill is covered.


You increase Y,  we increase the tuition. It won't all go into administrators,  quite a bit really does go into making life nicer for students;  however, we will spend it all.  That's what we do.


Note that states decide how much to charge, but a third party, the feds, supplies the payment.  Setting high tuition is a way to effectively get the feds to transfer money to the state. 

What the Fed will grant or loan


is driven by private tuition costs.


Also, this is a little much: "From an 18 year old's point of view, a grant and a loan are the same. You sign some papers and your bill is covered." 


Most of the students I taught at a state University were very aware of their debt and most were juggling one or more jobs in order to even partially cope with it. 


It's right to emphasize that 18 yr. olds aren't as sophisticated as older adults and therefore shouldn't be preyed upon via college loans, but there's no reason to infantilize.

Really, Catchy?


Price is immune to demand shifts? Did we skip Economics 101? At the very least this is a feedback loop.

"I don't want us to descend into a nation of bloggers." - Steve Jobs

not denying that


eeyn made it sound like you could trace rising tuition costs back to federal limits being raised on grants and loans. I traced that one step back to rising *private* tuition and you traced it back further to rising demand.

Oh all right


Of course they aren't literally unaware of the difference.  On the other hand some people exaggerate the difference;  grants still have to be paid back through taxes, except for the part subsidized by people that don't go to college. 


Graded the first quiz a few days ago which is maybe why I'm infantilizing. The claim in the ensuing discussion was that metric prefixes aren't taught in high school.

Not sure which I'd rather hear...


... that they're not taught or that they're taught but engineering intake do not know them.

Worse yet


the class in which this occurred is sophomore level with a prerequisite of Calculus II and Physics I.  So in a course that is supposed to be about Thevenin's theorem and phasor analysis,  I'm reduced to spending time explaining the difference between "milli" and "micro".

I refuse to believe the last.

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freedom is a fundamental value that does not need to be justified in terms of some other value like efficiency

"Tuition is set to whatever the market will bear"

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i.e. in oldspeak, the elites do not like the young folks, so they'll find ways* to saddle them with unforgivable debt.  *Such as creating a false front of a "3rd party" because federalist** public grifting.

**Germany is an exception, not-federalist, cheap university system.



Most European and other countries around the world don't siphon money off non-elites attending a university.


some examples




It can be forgiven


by various means,  most of which involve taking jobs that ordinary people shy away from.   For example, people taking a faculty job at the place I work are eligible to get their loans discharged.  No kidding. 

...who cannot pay their way.

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In 2011-2012, 486,524 international undergraduate and graduate students used personal or family funds as their primary monetary source—a 6.1 percent increase over those who did so in 2010-2011, according to "Open Doors." In total, international students contributed about $21.81 billion to the U.S. economy in the last school year, according to an analysis of "Open Doors" data by NASFA: Association of International Educators.

Isn't this good?

freedom is a fundamental value that does not need to be justified in terms of some other value like efficiency

... which is the vast majority


Certainly no domestic college graduate should believe their sky-high tuition costs are offset by foreign stimulus to the general economy.

They and their parents believe the opposite


The common belief is that the foreign students are some kind of drain on colleges,  when in fact they are a revenue source.

I've never heard that


I've heard that they're taking limited spots that should be reserved for domestic students, but I've never heard the drain complaint.


Could be a Texas thing.

Glad To Have Foreign Students Here. . .

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. . .as long as they're vetted enough to avoid *obvious* jihadis/other cancers on humanity--in training, and the top end ones are at least encouraged to consider migrating to these shores (with the immigration laws set up to encourage it).

. . .and Don Mattingly must be fired (bye Ned--don't let the door hit you in the @$$ on the way out!).

There's actually


lots of vetting/monitoring of foreign students going on,  much more than I thought, and more than there was 30 years ago when I was in school.


Middle Eastern students tell me they gets visits from the guys in suits.   Friendly,  courteous visits,  maybe a couple times a year.

Limited spots?


Are there really any states where all the colleges are turning away students,  and people literally can't get in anywhere?  Every place I know of has a system of second tier and junior colleges,  and those places are invariably trying to increase enrollment,  not limit entry.


Interesting chart - public sector payrolls


Weekend jazz listening


This video is blocked in my country. -nt-



"Hell is truth seen too late." --Thomas Hobbes

Not in mine. nt

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freedom is a fundamental value that does not need to be justified in terms of some other value like efficiency

That sucks


Art Blakey's been dead for over a decade and this album was recorded more than 55 yrs. ago. This should be out in the public domain.


Anyway, don't feel too bad, I can't get netflix or hulu in Korea. here's the title track off the album:



Also blocked in my country.


It's like the powers that be don't want me diggin on jazz.

"Hell is truth seen too late." --Thomas Hobbes

That one had 1.5 million hits on youtube


Art Blakey's Moanin:



A reminder to everyone on theforvm


True Courage Is Knowing You’re Wrong But Refusing To Admit It

Jobs report - 169k this month


with downward revisions to June and July, the latest report has a 3-month average of only 148k per month. The % of the population employed actually decreased. And the report again emphasizes that a much higher proportion than average of the jobs being created are low-paying, non-middle class jobs in the retail and restaurant sectors.


This economy still stinks.  


Republicans share a ton of the blame, but Obama rewarded the two guys most responsible for this failure on his team by offering them the job of Fed chair.

Given the UE claims, ISM indices,


and GDP numbers, I suspect that either UE claim seasonal adjustment is way off or these numbers may get adjusted up again in the coming months. 

Or GDP gets revised down


I agree the measures arent in sync, but the downward revision of past months was a bad sign. These things get more accurate as time goes on. Also, personal incomes fell again in July which coheres with a soft labor market. But I hope youre right.

The Road to Paradise



...this is an image I freely admit that I did not have the talent to complete in 2007. Also, maybe the technology was not there. But I have always loved this and promised to re-visit if the opportunity arose.

I was going to ask people to guess what the problem was, but I will tell you...there were huge power lines across the frame. Fixed now. Finally!


Best Wishes, Traveller

Interestingly, That Seems to Be Exactly What Snowden has Done


...we haven't heard a peep from him personally. Nary a picture, nada a word, except a rebuke to his father, which even this I see as a move designed to protect Lon Snowden who was way over his head in what he, the father, was saying. His father was becoming vulnerable and it is noteworthy that he hasn't said a word since either.


These were wordy people, maybe it was a wordy family, but there has been recent silence...just the sound of crickets.


Best Wishes, Traveller

Hmm, if there was a rebuke I missed it.


Could you provide a link?

Sure, here's the Link and the Story re Snowden and his Father


Snowden is known to have been in contact with his father, Lon Snowden, whose own legal team consists of attorney Bruce Fein and Fein’s wife and spokeswoman, Mattie Fein. The public’s thirst for the story, combined with Snowden’s dubious whereabouts in Russia, has unleashed the media on Mr. Snowden and the Feins.

“It has come to my attention that news organizations seeking information regarding my current situation have, due to the difficulty in contacting me directly, been misled by individuals associated with my father into printing false claims about my situation,” Edward Snowden wrote in an email to the Huffington Post.

Mattie Fein told the Wall Street Journal on Thursday that Lon Snowden’s legal team did not trust the anti-government secrecy group WikiLeaks or Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian journalist who first published the classified NSA documents leaked by Snowden. She claimed Greenwald has been trying to woo major media outlets into paying over one million dollars for an exclusive interview with the NSA leaker, an assertion Greenwald called “defamatory.”

“I would like to correct the record,” Edward Snowden wrote. “I’ve been fortunate to have legal advice from an international team of some of the finest lawyers in the world, and to work with journalists whose integrity and courage are beyond question. There is no conflict amongst myself and any of the individuals or organizations with whom I have been involved.”

“Neither my father, his lawyer Bruce Fein, nor his wife Mattie Fein represent me in any way,” Snowden’s letter continued. “None of them have been or are involved in my current situation, and this will not change in the future. I ask journalists to understand that they do not possess any special knowledge regarding my situation or future plans, and not to exploit the tragic vacuum of my father’s emotional compromise for the sake of tabloid news.”


Best Wishes, Traveller

Very interesting.


Thanks Trav.